Choctaw Casino Durant

[Boring]

Set tight?

Well it kinda makes sense. Like the Kansas Lotto when it finally arrived was loose as a goose. All of my buddies won big like over 10K big.
Since I had no money and no inclination I didn't. It does stand to reason though the newest casinos and or lottos should be loose to lure them in then tighten them up to make money. So if they are random number generators how do they tighten them up?

As I understand it, they are computer chips. The chips can’t be altered. But they can be replaced.

 

[Boring]

What???

 

[thor447]

Was I accurate enough or too accurate? BTW, I changed my address to Denver and now have a burner phone.

Sort of, but it would depend on the type of cabinet being converted. There's more to it than that, but there is some hardware swaps that go on, depending on the type of game.

As I understand it, they are computer chips. The chips can’t be altered. But they can be replaced.

Incorrect for today's games. The paytables are no longer chip/eeprom based. Very much correct for slot machines of 20 years ago.

 

[Boring]

Sort of, but it would depend on the type of cabinet being converted. There's more to it than that, but there is some hardware swaps that go on, depending on the type of game.


Incorrect for today's games. The paytables are no longer chip/eeprom based. Very much correct for slot machines of 20 years ago.

So in reality, only the older machines can be adjusted. I played a lot of Eclipse and WMS this morning, such as “Vampire’s Embrace.” That last one was a true penny machine in that you could place one cent bets.

 

[Boring]

This one. Whole banks of old WMS machines. The place is loaded with old VGTs, also. Now I see.

 

[Boring]

I thank you, thor447. I was completely unaware of this.

 

[thor447]

This one. Whole banks of old WMS machines. The place is loaded with old VGTs, also. Now I see.

I'm aware. Those WMS machines are our ours. There are NO games on that floor that can have theo %'s changed via physical chip. None. It is no longer allowed with today's gaming regulations. Those WMS games are on the older side, and that particular WMS game you're referring to is in a BlueBird 2 cabinet. They make look old, but mechanically they are up to date and still with regulations.

So in reality, only the older machines can be adjusted. I played a lot of Eclipse and WMS this morning, such as “Vampire’s Embrace.” That last one was a true penny machine in that you could place one cent bets.

No, all games can be adjusted, but it's not a simple process, either technically or from a regulatory standpoint. Tons of people say games are 'tight' at any particular time. The reality of it is that nothing has changed. I can assure you that the games aren't touched, and no screws are turned to tighten or loosen them. WE are the ones who set them up 99% of the time, NOT the casinos. Obviously the casino has a hand in how they are configured, but the physical work is usually done by those who work in my area of gaming. There are items needed to do this work, and it isn't something that can be done remotely, or without regulatory approvals, casino operations involvement, etc. Sometimes people are lucky, and sometimes they aren't. What the player may feel at a particular time on the casino floor makes it seem like someone is turning the screws behind the scenes, but that's just not how it really works. Believe me, but I can't even convince my own aunt!

Regarding the 'true penny' machine, where you can literally bet 1 line at 1 credit per line, betting 0.01 each spin. That's just a matter of the machine configuration. Almost all games can be set up that way. Most common in casinos everywhere is to force a cover of at least a few lines, making the minimum bet 0.10, or 0.30, etc. It's all a matter of optioning. Some people are perfectly content to sit there and spin a penny at a time. A giant win would be a dollar! There are others that aren't there for that, and want an opportunity to win bigger amounts, etc. Obviously the casino won't make much money if a player spins a game at a penny per spin all day, but some games are set up to allow that. Configs vary by casino and theme.

 

[Boring]

I'm aware. Those WMS machines are our ours. There are NO games on that floor that can have theo %'s changed via physical chip. None. It is no longer allowed with today's gaming regulations. Those WMS games are on the older side, and that particular WMS game you're referring to is in a BlueBird 2 cabinet. They make look old, but mechanically they are up to date and still with regulations.


No, all games can be adjusted, but it's not a simple process, either technically or from a regulatory standpoint. Tons of people say games are 'tight' at any particular time. The reality of it is that nothing has changed. I can assure you that the games aren't touched, and no screws are turned to tighten or loosen them. WE are the ones who set them up 99% of the time, NOT the casinos. Obviously the casino has a hand in how they are configured, but the physical work is usually done by those who work in my area of gaming. There are items needed to do this work, and it isn't something that can be done remotely, or without regulatory approvals, casino operations involvement, etc. Sometimes people are lucky, and sometimes they aren't. What the player may feel at a particular time on the casino floor makes it seem like someone is turning the screws behind the scenes, but that's just not how it really works. Believe me, but I can't even convince my own aunt!

Regarding the 'true penny' machine, where you can literally bet 1 line at 1 credit per line, betting 0.01 each spin. That's just a matter of the machine configuration. Almost all games can be set up that way. Most common in casinos everywhere is to force a cover of at least a few lines, making the minimum bet 0.10, or 0.30, etc. It's all a matter of optioning. Some people are perfectly content to sit there and spin a penny at a time. A giant win would be a dollar! There are other that aren't there for that, and want an opportunity to win bigger amounts, etc. Configs vary by casino and theme.

Thanks for clearing up the folklore surrounding the machines. So, they couldn’t have tightened them up to compensate for the COVID-19 interim in which the casino was closed.

 

[thor447]

Thanks for clearing up the folklore surrounding the machines. So, they couldn’t have tightened them up to compensate for the COVID-19 interim in which the casino was closed.

No, nothing was changed. Without getting into detail regarding compliance procedures, I can tell you that no changes of that type can be done without a gaming agent present. It isn't physically possible, by design. The gaming commissions were all closed for COVID. We all worked from home doing what we can without visiting casinos. Nothing could've possibly been changed on the casino floors, with respect to how the machines are configured. Games may be moved, rearranged, etc., but that doesn't affect how they mechanically operate.

That's the last freebie. Money talks and BS walks from here on out!!

 

[ignerntbend]

The machines are programmed legally to pay out 90% of what they take in.
Pretty sweet deal when you think about it.
The casinos aren’t interested in jeopardizing it.
The machines are tight?
I’m sure you’ll have better luck Saturday.
Here’s fifty dollars in free play.
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