So could you have a local law officer run it? What would happen if it turned out to be stolen?No. Only law enforcement can access that database.
So could you have a local law officer run it? What would happen if it turned out to be stolen?No. Only law enforcement can access that database.
Best do that check before you buy ...lolSo could you have a local law officer run it? What would happen if it turned out to be stolen?
How would someone go about checking to see if the gun was stolen before they actually purchase it? Wouldn't this rule out most FTF gun transactions? A thief isn't going to give any legitimate information that would send him to jail for selling a stolen gun.Best do that check before you buy ...lol
If you buy it and it turns out stolen, you name is Nancy at that point.
Just meet up at the police station and have them run it while you both wait.How would someone go about checking to see if the gun was stolen before they actually purchase it? Wouldn't this rule out most FTF gun transactions? A thief isn't going to give any legitimate information that would send him to jail for selling a stolen gun.
Buyer bewareHow would someone go about checking to see if the gun was stolen before they actually purchase it? Wouldn't this rule out most FTF gun transactions? A thief isn't going to give any legitimate information that would send him to jail for selling a stolen gun.
LMAO...yeah, and if they shy away from that meeting, theirs yer sign.Just meet up at the police station and have them run it while you both wait.
Just meet up at the police station and have them run it while you both wait.
Here's the shamefully brief version:
- I bought an AR-15 new.
- I sold the AR to a well established member here (I won't reveal his name, but he's no longer here, and currently in prison).
- The next day the AR was used in a crime, and was left at the scene.
- The gun was traced to me in two ways: (a) original buyer paperwork--the feds tracked it down and had a copy of it that I saw, and (b) my fingerprints were on the gun.
- Naturally, the feds had some questions for me.
- They thought I was lying during all the initial questioning (and it was a lot). I had no idea why I was being questioned, for a long time. It got quite scary.
- Once they determined I was telling the truth, and told me what was actually going on, things relaxed a bit.
- In the process, I learned some interesting things about how they were tracking the classifieds on this and other forums, and tracking specific people's buying/selling behavior.
- The moral to this story: protect yourself because you never know when the butterfly effects will come back and bite you.
The only information on the 4473 that is submitted to the FBI is your personal information. The information about the gun purchased is added to the form after the "Proceed" or "Delay" is received from the NICS center. Therefore, the only way you are connected tot he gun is by the form sitting in the FFL's safe/file cabinet (or at the ATF if the FFL has left the business as all of his 4473s have to be turned in to the ATF at that point.)The one that gets called into the FBI on new gun purchase via FFL.
Serious question... when they started questioning you and wouldn't tell you what it was in regards to, did you ever think about calling a lawyer?
This is part of why I don't sell firearms for the most part, but even so, I think except in some very extraordinary circumstances, it'd be pretty easy for me (my lawyer, actually) to clear me in a situation like this. I mean... besides alibis, you've got motive, my clean record, etc. I'm not overly-worried about it.
"Arrest me or tell me the whole story so I can make sense of it. Otherwise, piss off."
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