If a (hypothetical) amendment were passed to ban guns

[donner]

The suggestion that rendering millions of citizens as ‘individuals’ defenseless in an attempt to attenuate the relatively low frequency of incidents in which small clusters of citizens have been killed or injured ‘collectively’ by firearms leaves the overwhelming majority of citizens with a profoundly greater risk of death or injury from a myriad of sources than the actual risk to which a relatively insignificant collective subgroup is exposed. Remember, there are around 350 million citizens, and God only knows how many illegal aliens, now residing in our country. The argument in question intentionally does not take into account of the enormous number of incidents where privately owned firearms are used to prevent citizen deaths or injuries often without ever being fired. The rationale behind this dangerous suggestion is based a on a fallacy appealing to the emotions of the audience (argumentum ad passiones) and it smells to me like another Marxist dialectic narrative. I call to mind that Hillary Clinton was a protégée of Saul Alinsky, Marxist author of ‘Rules for Radicals’; so, It’s not much of a reach to imagine from where this idea arises…..

You’re giving me far too much credit on this one, sir.

I've stated many times that i don't think it will happen. I asked a question about what people might do about 'gun control' that would fall within an approach that is Constitutionally sound.

Anything that you infer beyond that is on you.

I also said at one point that the overarching question could easily be applied to many of the different rights that we currently find to be fundamental. It's not a question that is limited to guns, but rather was meant to explore the idea of people using the provided framework to make big changes to our system.

I made no argument in favor of the efforts or against the efforts. I simply asked what people would do. Their own passions could lead them in many directions. Which was kind of the point. I neither suggest nor advocated for anyway with my question, though. I stated a scenario without implication of whether it was good or bad.

If you want to spin the hypothetical out to all possible pitfalls, you certainly can, but it goes beyond the scope of what i asked.

 

[Tinytim]

44 million guns in private hands. Don’t see it happening

When gun owners are educated, on what to expect, seizing your property (used in the Commision of a crime) they tend to get weak kneed and cave.
Just keep in mind that any gun purchased new has an easy trail to follow and would be the first to be enforced.

 

[JEVapa]

Nor do I, though I can't imagine outlawing alcohol and it happened.

Yeah, and look what happened. lol

As for this thread, meh.

 

[DavidMcmillan]

Never going to happen…they can’t even pass a budget.

 

[Frederick]

about as likely within my lifetime as an amendment to legalize slavery.

 

[GnometownHero]

And God told Moses
" take the Egyptians swimming if they follow you"

 

[donner]

about as likely within my lifetime as an amendment to legalize slavery.

Never going to happen…they can’t even pass a budget.

very true on both accounts, though it's also not entirely impossible (from a procedural standpoint).

 

[retrieverman]

An amendment of the 2nd would likely start some sort of civil conflict IMO.

I completely and totally disagree.
I have been associated with the poultry industry since the early 90’s, and chicken farmers have been trying to put together some sort of a union since before that. I’ve been to their meetings and heard their proposals and speeches, but in the end, chicken farmers can’t agree that grass is green and the sky is blue. They will NEVER get together and form a union.
Gun owners are the same, and there’s no physical possible way that a kind of “organized” civil conflict will ever happen again in this country. A few rednecks getting together isn’t a civil conflict, and that’s about all you’re going to get. After the Jan 6 debacle, I doubt you’re going to see much of anything like that again.
I’ve never really been a pessimist in my life, but I think we’re screwed as a country and probably as a whole society.

 

[Hangfire]

 

[Raido Free America]

GUNS can not be un-invented, any more than alcohol, drugs, or nuclear weapons can! These things good or bad, will never go away, making them illegal will only make them more expensive to POLITICIANS, and criminals, that don't follow the law anyway, and give them confidence their victims are UNARMED!