NICS denial act

[DavidMcmillan]

Well, it is in a round about way. This effort is a bit of an offshoot of us wanting Hunter Biden charged for lying on a 4473, it’s hardly a big deal, but it is being explained as an effort to fully implement current laws.

A perfect example of why we need to support efforts like OK2A, and be talking to our Reps, etc.

 

[joegrizzy]

ah yes, talk to your reps so the family of those very reps can willingly violate the law, film it, and then those reps can just brag about firing anyone who investigates them.

 

[joegrizzy]

no one, and i mean NO ONE, literal CHILDREN never cared about following drug laws.
now weed is going to be legal federally, everywhere, likely within the next few potus cycles. some cities have decriminalized basically everything. in many places, the government will just *give them to you*.

see what i'm getting at?

just stop complying.

 

[trekrok]

I've seen numbers that say 80-90% of delays are eventual approvals. If I was one of those guys who seems to get delayed on a regular basis, I wouldn't like this at all. For that matter, I never have been delayed, and I don't like it at all.

Next, why don't they tighten or tweak the nics database to generate more delays.

What do they do with the data? Do they keep it? What if you get 3 delays? Do you get a visit then? Maybe an audit, where they need to see those guns? Maybe they fold it into the 'strawman' visits.

 

[joegrizzy]

I've seen numbers that say 80-90% of delays are eventual approvals. If I was one of those guys who seems to get delayed on a regular basis, I wouldn't like this at all. For that matter, I never have been delayed, and I don't like it at all.

Next, why don't they tighten or tweak the nics database to generate more delays.

What do they do with the data? Do they keep it? What if you get 3 delays? Do you get a visit then? Maybe an audit, where they need to see those guns? Maybe they fold it into the 'strawman' visits.

yes it's also been proven a lot of those delays are literally just being "randomly" chosen. like some people just get delayed for the sake of delaying.

 

[sherrick13]

Now there ya go again, interjecting common sense and logical points. LOL

Oh, so you trust government? Bless your heart.

 

[joegrizzy]

Oh, so you trust government? Bless your heart.

look they are just people like the rest of us. the fact they openly hate you, want you dead, your children raped, and they it's funny doesn't matter. don't forget they are people just like you and me.

they don't openly revel in the extinction of your people. they don't clap for the suicides of white people. they don't cheer for census data the reveals less white americans in 2020 than 2010.

it's really important to just remember they are people just like you and me. there's probably no reason to assume they want you dead, or even take them at their word. i'm sure they are just blowing off steam like us and don't really mean it.

right?

 

[mightymouse]

Resurrecting..

Just read an article that this is now implemented. It quotes an FBI email dated 9/22 obtained by gun owners of America, confirming the personal address requirement to FBI applies to both denials AND delays. If you get delayed, don't worry about it though. I'm sure you can trust the FBI to properly handle the data.

Not all delays result in this information being reported to the NICS/FBI, at least in Oklahoma. And, with a person's full name, state of residence, state of birth, DOB, driver's license number, and, optionally, SSN already required info on a background check, does any rational person honestly believe the Feds can't figure out his/her address?

 

[mightymouse]

It says denials OR delays. Heck, I get delayed every Danged time.
Feds coming for me?

No. All delays in Oklahoma are not reported to NICS. Some are, some are not. Fear mongering on OSA is a popular pastime, though, facts be damned.

 

[dennishoddy]

No. All delays in Oklahoma are not reported to NICS. Some are, some are not. Fear mongering on OSA is a popular pastime, though, facts be damned.

Then splain to me why I get delayed every danged time. In my time of buying guns that required a 4473, there has been two times I got the firearm same day. I've won 6 firearms at DU and QU banquets over the years. All delayed.
I was given a phone number by my FFL that is supposed to be a number you can call to see WTF. I called it and got some welfare for homeless voice mail.
WTF? 30+years of being on delay.