Stupid hunting law....

[Super Dave]

Mark's Firearms has a 5 round for $20, FYI.

 

[Owasso]

Ok speaking of dumb laws why can't we hunt pigs at night like every other state that is truly trying to eradicate pigs will let you do! Now if you want to hunt them at night you have to get permission?

Could not agree more. One more infringement on our freedom. Hogs are a feral species, their should be no regulations on how they are dispatched. If they are worried about night hunting during deer season, then they should simply prohibit night vision use during dear season.

 

[DeeJay]

................. Now, do I need 20 rounds to deer hunt with? No, but I don't want to spend $20-30 just to get a mag to use once a year (if that) at during deer season....

Change the law if you can, it is a stupid law.
In the meantime, spend the $20 for the mag. It is a pittance compared to the amount of money you have invested in gear and the amount you will spend on each trip out to the field.

 

[TedKennedy]

Could not agree more. One more infringement on our freedom. Hogs are a feral species, their should be no regulations on how they are dispatched. If they are worried about night hunting during deer season, then they should simply prohibit night vision use during dear season.

If y'all had seen some of the correspondence had with the ODWC around 13-14 years ago concerning hogs, you'd realize they waited way too long to acknowledge the problem, and the arrogance of the then head of ODWC was startling.

It seems there's been a pretty big disconnect between the GWs in the field and the hierarchy at the capitol. It may have improve some in the last couple of years, but I don't know.

Having attended many of the "open forums" held at the beginning of each year, it's become very apparent that "the average Joe" can say what he wants, and even if there's a majority of folks speaking up, the ODWC will do as it pleases.

So maybe you can get the mag restriction changed, but I'd probably leave it alone. The arrogant powers that be may just decide only single-shots are legal next time.

 

[turkeyrun]

$20 for 5 rnd mag is ridiculous.
Rifle came with 2 - 20s.
Bought a 10 pack of 30s for $62 = $6.20 ea.
Took a 20 and plugged it to hold 7 and painted the bottom plate silver.

Stupid law, YES. No hog at night, equally stupid. It is what happens when the rule makers are clueless.
They cite poaching as the reasoning. Poachers don't follow the law anyway. Make the punishment for poaching severe enough to discourage them.

 

[vvvvvvv]

The legislature passes laws, not the wildlife department. Some legislature can throw a NO MAG over 7 into a spending bill and it will pass without a no vote if its tied to a bill that provides food for hungry children. That's how things run at the capitol.

Negative. The legislature delegates most of their responsibility, which is why the 22 caliber capacity limit is nowhere to be found in the statutes. It's something that the Department of Wildlife put in place under authority delegated to them by the legislature to unilaterally devise and execute their own rules.

Oklahoma Administrative Rules 800:25-7-54

Nothing in the above link (or here) is controlled by the legislature. The only way the legislature could change that is to revoke delegation.

So the 22 caliber restriction is not a law - it is a rule unilaterally imposed by the Department of Wildlife.

 

[mouthpiece]

This will work with a 20 round AR mag.

Use a plastic 3M type squeegie(google 3M plastic squeegie) from hardware store.
Cut it to fit inside the magazine spring with a pair of heavy scissors or box knife(BE CAREFUL)
Fit rounds and trim length as neccesary until amount of rounds desired fit the magazine.

 

[Coded-Dude]

So the open carry of a handgun with a hunting license(while hunting) only applies to pistols that are legal to hunt with? I hunt private land, so its not an issue for me....just curious.

 

[TedKennedy]

Negative. The legislature delegates most of their responsibility, which is why the 22 caliber capacity limit is nowhere to be found in the statutes. It's something that the Department of Wildlife put in place under authority delegated to them by the legislature to unilaterally devise and execute their own rules.

Oklahoma Administrative Rules 800:25-7-54

Nothing in the above link (or here) is controlled by the legislature. The only way the legislature could change that is to revoke delegation.

So the 22 caliber restriction is not a law - it is a rule unilaterally imposed by the Department of Wildlife.

The rules have to be approved by a nine-member commision, IIRC.

 

[vvvvvvv]

The rules have to be approved by a nine-member commision, IIRC.

1. Agency drafts proposed rule changes. (How the agency gets to this point is solely up to the agency)
2. Governor approves draft.
3. 30 day public comment period.
4. Agency notifies legislature.
5. Legislature may explicitly approve or disapprove proposed rule changes through joint resolutions. Failure to address explicitly is tacit approval (usually the legislature passes an omnibus joint resolution that lists politically-expedient changes they approve and all changes they disapprove; any proposed changes not on either list are considered approved upon passage). Alternatively, the Governor can issue a declaration.