taurus VS. rock island?

[edg8687]

I own a PT1911 and have spent quite a bit of time with an RIA GI. My Taurus has functioned flawlessly eating all I fed it. The RIA GI functioned equally well. However after both guns had gone through break in, the RIA developed quite a bit of slop in the slide and barrel lock up, while the Taurus did not. I know depending on what you use your gun for this may notbe a big deal for some, but I found the poor lockup concerningon the RIA

 

[WhiteyMacD]

I own a PT1911 and have spent quite a bit of time with an RIA GI. My Taurus has functioned flawlessly eating all I fed it. The RIA GI functioned equally well. However after both guns had gone through break in, the RIA developed quite a bit of slop in the slide and barrel lock up, while the Taurus did not. I know depending on what you use your gun for this may notbe a big deal for some, but I found the poor lockup concerningon the RIA

I can understand the slop in the slide, but you need to explain this slop in barrel lockup.

 

[edg8687]

When the slide was forward on the gun, you could take your finger and press lightly on the chamber and the barrel would move in the slide. I understand that this is common in broken in 1911s, but this was the worst slop I had seen. Forgive my ignorance and help me understand but it seems to me that the slide/barrel fit was poor and/or the toggle link was sloppy. It affected the accuracy as time went on as well so the barrel wasnt returning to the same position shot to shot.

 

[WhiteyMacD]

When the slide was forward on the gun, you could take your finger and press lightly on the chamber and the barrel would move in the slide. I understand that this is common in broken in 1911s, but this was the worst slop I had seen. Forgive my ignorance and help me understand but it seems to me that the slide/barrel fit was poor and/or the toggle link was sloppy. It affected the accuracy as time went on as well so the barrel wasnt returning to the same position shot to shot.

Weird. I can understand some play, but that sounds like a component has failed. Checked the barrel link and/or recoil spring/rod? Other than that, I dont know the technical name for them, but the ridges on the top of the barrel and the grooves inside the slide, are those worn?

 

[MyMonkey]

Have not owned a Taurus. However, I have a RIA GI and like it. It has jammed on me a few times though.

Wall. Niiiice!

 

[Wall]

Weird. I can understand some play, but that sounds like a component has failed. Checked the barrel link and/or recoil spring/rod? Other than that, I dont know the technical name for them, but the ridges on the top of the barrel and the grooves inside the slide, are those worn?

I believe they're called lugs.
My guess would be on the link or the pin portion of the slide stop (that passes thru the frame & link) may have got bent somehow. I wouldn't chalk this up to break in though, unless you have a pretty serious break in for your pistols. I'd think this should only be seen on very well used 1911's.

 

[edg8687]

Now that we are talking about it I would love to see the gun, my friend sold it (for a glock!). My suspicion is that the toggle link was worn in a way that allowed the barrel to drop out of the grooves in the slide. We are getting into territory that I suppose a 1911 smith could explain. To be fair to the RIA this could have been a lemon. I didnt think that it was unsafe to fire, but there was greater movement than I had ever experienced with other 1911s. I tend to be a bit of a stickler with fit, (I was spoiled by my dad's Colt Gold Cup and Springer Trophy Match) but I bought the Taurus expecting it to get loose. So far it hasnt with over a thousand rounds feeling closer to the Springers I have been fortunate to shoot (I am in college and guns are low on the list for funds) The RIA GI that my buddy had loosened up after a few hundred rounds. The short break in was well appreciated.

 

[WhiteyMacD]

Now that we are talking about it I would love to see the gun, my friend sold it (for a glock!). My suspicion is that the toggle link was worn in a way that allowed the barrel to drop out of the grooves in the slide. We are getting into territory that I suppose a 1911 smith could explain. To be fair to the RIA this could have been a lemon. I didnt think that it was unsafe to fire, but there was greater movement than I had ever experienced with other 1911s. I tend to be a bit of a stickler with fit, (I was spoiled by my dad's Colt Gold Cup and Springer Trophy Match) but I bought the Taurus expecting it to get loose. So far it hasnt with over a thousand rounds feeling closer to the Springers I have been fortunate to shoot (I am in college and guns are low on the list for funds) The RIA GI that my buddy had loosened up after a few hundred rounds. The short break in was well appreciated.

It could have been a lemon in regards to poor barrel/slide fit. It may have been just within tolerance enough when new that the barrel lugs could engage. After a little wear, they no longer would hold. So could have been a defective barrel link assembly/slide stop pin which lead to premature failure, or a bad barrel/slide fit. At any rate, most likely a defect.

 

[doctruptwn]

I have in the neighborhood of 10,000 rounds through my Rock, Still as tight as the day I got it. Sounds like your friend should have utilized the lifetime warrenty and had that one fixed.

 

[flatwins]

I'm a 1911 newb but got to put a few rounds through my GI officers model this past weekend. I enjoyed it and look forward to spending more time with that gun.