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Also wouldn't it be a federal crime being a postal matter?

No. The USPS doesn't care about this sort of thing at all. When kids drive around and play mailbox baseball it's not handled by postal inspectors. It's handled by the local law enforcement. Postal inspectors don't give a rat's ass about this sort of thing.
 

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I can tell you from personal my personal experience Amazon will make it right if you have proof which you do. I didn't have a police report when something similar happened they took care of it pretty quickly no fuss no muss.
 

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I can tell you from personal my personal experience Amazon will make it right if you have proof which you do. I didn't have a police report when something similar happened they took care of it pretty quickly no fuss no muss.

Was told someone would contact me within 48 hrs. Still waiting on a contact from Amazon. Not holding my breath.
 

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No. The USPS doesn't care about this sort of thing at all. When kids drive around and play mailbox baseball it's not handled by postal inspectors. It's handled by the local law enforcement. Postal inspectors don't give a rat's ass about this sort of thing.
Our rural mailbox was moved 15' by the neighbor because she didn't like it where it was located. The post office told her that if she didn't move it back to its original location, they would stop delivering mail to our location.
We have to drive 20' on her gravel driveway to get our mail, back up and turn right to our road that continues to our home and she didn't like it. Our only neighbor.
She is also the neighbor that went to the post office and complained the rural mail carrier didn't properly fold the letters into the center of the newspaper she gets mailed to her every day so it's all in a single "bundle". We are friends with the mail carrier and got this information.
Yes, the postal inspectors won't come out for this either, its handled at the local level.
 

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When I first put up a new mailbox the local carrier delivered to it without issue for over 2 weeks. Then our mail stopped. Turns out the driver complained that he had to pull into the old driveway entrance (where I located the box), back up, then pull forward a vehicle length to put mail in the box.

So, I had to move it. Now the carrier just has to pull into the driveway entrance, back up, then pull forward a vehicle length to put mail in the box.

Post Office bureaucracy knows no bounds...
 

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That’s an Amazon truck but I highly doubt it’s owned or operated by Amazon.

  • In an effort to ensure the Seattle-based company can make good on its increasingly demanding product delivery schedule, Amazon is offering to help set you up in the delivery business. With an initial investment of as little as$10,000, the company says it can get you leased vans, insurance, gas cards and training to launch your own delivery fleet.

Pros and cons of that $10,000 Amazon delivery business offer​

July 2, 2018 / 5:00 AM
If you've always dreamed of starting your own business, Amazon (AMZN) has a deal for you. But you may want to think twice before you accept it.

In an effort to ensure the Seattle-based company can make good on its increasingly demanding product delivery schedule, Amazon is offering to help set you up in the delivery business.

With an initial investment of as little as $10,000, the company says it can get you leased vans, insurance, gas cards and training to launch your own delivery fleet. The site also promises to be your first – and, possibly, only – customer. A delivery fleet owner with 20 to 40 vans can potentially earn $300,000 a year, Amazon says.

"Individual owners can build their business knowing they will have delivery volume from Amazon, access to the company's sophisticated delivery technology, hands-on training, and discounts on a suite of assets and services, including vehicle leases and comprehensive insurance," Amazon said in a press release Thursday.

The catch? There's no guarantee that you'll make a $300,000 profit – or any profit, for that matter. In fact, you may be able to earn more on an hourly basis by simply delivering packages on your own, without investing the time and money required to start your own enterprise.

The costs of working with Amazon are so substantial that independent delivery companies are increasingly turning away Amazon's business, says Peter Schlactus, co-founder of the Association for Delivery Drivers. The reason: Amazon requires that delivery companies hire their drivers as employees, rather than work with independent contractors.

"The challenges of doing delivery work for Amazon have taken many dozens of delivery owners by surprise," Schlactus says. "My read is that Amazon is doing this to address a dwindling supply of independent delivery companies who are willing and able to work with them."

Why is Amazon's requirement that you hire, rather than contract with, drivers so onerous? Because it subjects the delivery company to a wide array of expenses, from employment taxes, workers compensation and unemployment insurance levies, as well as to substantial additional liability.

"If an independent contractor gets into an accident, they cover the damages and liability from their own insurance," says Schlactus. "If they are your employee, you are liable."

Worse, he says, if your van is emblazoned with an Amazon logo, it may put a target on your back.

"When people see a major company's logo on your van, they won't hesitate to make a claim and to make a claim more aggressively than if they think they are dealing with a small business with limited resources," he says.

Then, too, to make the kind of money Amazon is talking about requires an extraordinary amount of work. You've got to find 20 to 40 fit and responsible individuals with good driving records to operate your vans, do background checks and process employment paperwork and then manage the mind-boggling job of scheduling not only their time, but the delivery of thousands of packages per month within tight allotted time frames.

"It is a 24/7 management commitment," he says. "It would be interesting to see what your pay would work out to on an hourly basis."

That said, Schlactus says there's never been a better time to be a delivery driver or operate a delivery business. Because more sales are happening online and more companies are trying to compete on service as well as sales, delivery drivers are in high demand.

"There is a shortage of commercial drivers, which means they can command better terms and better conditions than any time in recent memory," he adds.

Solo delivery drivers can earn $30,000 to $50,000 annually with nothing more than a passenger car, he says. If you have a van, you can earn twice as much.

Notably, you can even drive for Amazon without starting a business. Amazon Flexhires independent contractors to deliver packages and pays between $18 and $25 per hour, according to job rating and review site SideHusl.com.

As for Amazon's offer, Schlactus says: "My advice would be to approach this cautiously. Do your homework. Plug into trade associations, such as ours and the Customized Logistics and Delivery Association, and talk to people. Many current and former Amazon service providers belong and can tell you what it's like."
 

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I had an Amazon guy back up in my driveway and then continue right across my front yard leaving tracks (slight ditch). Just so happens that Amazon sent me a questionable email about this specific service. I told them about it and the next time he was much better about it. So it does help.
 

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