I’ll be the bad guy. Yes, those laws are racist and ethnocentric. There was a belief that Western Europeans created a society and a Republic worth emulating. The folks that wrote those laws felt like it was worth preserving, and the way to do that is to maintain a population with similar characteristics.
Apparently there was something to that Western Civilization thing, because every poor soul seeking to better their station in life wanted to take part in it.
Once that common background has been sufficiently diluted, the whole begins to reflect the incoming participants’ culture more and more. So, we are in the process of becoming the culture that those people fled.
Not too hard to do the math on that.
I appreciate you being so forthcoming, even if I disagree with your math.
It’s possible that we’ve ended up with illegal immigration as a by product of an immigration system and temporary worker programs that haven’t kept up with needs of our society or economy. I have no disagreement with the necessity to screen out violent criminals or those that have committed felony crimes. Yes, we should have control of our borders and ports of entry not just the southern one.
I don’t believe that racist, dehumanizing language or discussions about shooting people that cross the border serves the purpose of creating a better plan to solve the issue of mass amounts of humans entering the country and waiting years for their day in court. Nor should we be burdened with imprisonment or flying all those people back to where they came from with no reasonable end in sight.
Have you ever heard of a literacy test? Do you know the history of literacy tests and voting? How they were used against blacks and others that had little access to education to prevent them from being able to vote? Do you know that whites were exempted from literacy tests or given easier tests? How literacy tests were used to exclude people from immigrating? That’s not leftist agenda. It’s ****** history.
I know little of that specific history, but based solely on your description...the purpose of such practices may be simply more practical in nature, than racist.
I'm just following it through logically mind you. Playing devil's advocate if you will.
If a student was known to have been educated in a public system which was standardized, than the average student should be assumed to have benefitted from that standard. If a student did NOT go through such standard education, than it is logical to assume that they likely would not meet the standards....and be required to test for literacy. If the logic is, that literacy is required in order for an Adult Human to learn and make decisions which effect the group, then of course required testing is the most effective way to go about it.
How is that racist? Recognizing that people who come from outside the culture are disproportionately effected is the entire point. The advanced culture sets the standard, and if you want to join it, you have to meet the bar. Lowering the bar, or making it disappear helps nobody.
Literacy tests? Yes. I took one when I joined the Navy back in '66. As for the voting aspects related to literacy tests, yes, I've heard of them. Same as having to be a property owner to vote, and poll taxes, too.. That's all in the past, thankfully. So, here we are in the present where all those ignorant policies are kaput.
Here in the present, all one needs to be eligible to vote is be a citizen of age, not dead, and not have lost the privilege to vote for some miscreant behavior.
Welcome to the present. Remember the past but don't carry it like a grudge. The future is ahead, so don't let the past rob you of success and happiness in that future.
Woody
HH, out of curiosity, do you think their should be borders or boundaries anywhere?
I suppose the Chinese owning Pedo Joe, Chinese invaders being up 100x the past 2 years, under Pedo Joe vs the numbers under Trump, Chinese government must approve anyone leaving China, vast majority of them being military age men, going to Uruguay (which doesn't require a passport), to board buses going to Mexico, being given maps, directions, contact names and addresses, settling near power stations, water supplies, military bases; is of no importance or concern; just more fear mongering.
"NEVER mind the man behind the curtain, pay attention to what the Wizard is telling you."
"NEVER mind the man behind the curtain, pay attention to what the Wizard is telling you."
Then there is this.
https://lawenforcementtoday.com/fmr-police-chief-chicago-illegal-immigrant-crime-going-to-boil-over
Speaking with Fox News via Zoom, Weitzel explained, "The frustration with this migrant crime is really, I think, going to boil over. You can pull up any article and see that some of these migrants are being arrested three and four and five times, over and over again, and released to commit more crime… It's not an exaggeration to say that it's a revolving door. And the police officers are saying, ‘Just forget it. Why bother? Why bother even making the arrest?’"
The demoralization described by Weitzel has reportedly grown with Chicago as the city and its metropolitan area have become plagued by endemic crimes by illegal immigrants with even outlying businesses and communities falling victim.
Weitzel, who retired in 2021 after a 37-year career policing in Riverside (a Cook County suburb of Chicago) told the outlet that immediately following the 2020 crime wave that devastated the Chicago metro, the illegal immigrant crisis exploded into the area.
Describing the scenario before the storm of illegal immigrants swept the area, he said, "Individuals from the city, gang members, and even gang enterprises, would send individuals out to the suburbs to commit crimes at the suburban malls or residential areas for burglaries. And they would always flee back east to Chicago. That was a pattern that happened every single week."
But now he observed that the recruiting pool for criminals has swollen considerably with illegal immigrants arriving and seeming to link up with pre-existing criminal organizations and gangs who proceed to induct them into the criminal community.
He added that right at the drop-off areas the illegal immigrants are "immediately targeted by these organizations to go out and commit crime."
Weitzel added, "Because would a migrant know where Oak Brook, Illinois, is, which has a very large, high-end shopping mall? Or Lombard, Illinois, or North Riverside, Illinois, which are all communities that have malls. They have no idea those communities even exist. They would have no idea how to get there, where they're located from the city of Chicago transportation. And these criminal enterprises are providing that for these migrants."
Essentially, the criminal groups are reportedly creating an underground infrastructure, a pipeline directly from congested inner-city drop points where Biden Administration DHS busing lands them, straight to vulnerable suburban areas, where police were already stretched thin.
As the chief observed, those Chicago suburbs have seen repeated criminal incursions by illegal immigrants bussed and flown into Chicago with two distinct incidents striking at the Oak Brook Macy's carried out by a total of six illegal immigrant assailants. Oak Brook Police Chief Brian Strockis said just following the incidents, "I believe that six felony arrests in one day illustrates that migrant criminal activity is a real problem."
Weitzel broke down the process telling Fox News that the criminals of Chicago are "giving them transportation, directing them to the buses and trains that go out to the suburbs. They're telling them where these high-end retail stores are in the mall, such as Macy's or other types of retail businesses that they don't even know exist."
"That would be like me…being dropped off in the middle of a city in Ecuador. And I wouldn’t know where the grocery stores are, the schools are, a police station. I would know nothing. The same is happening in the city of Chicago."
https://lawenforcementtoday.com/fmr-police-chief-chicago-illegal-immigrant-crime-going-to-boil-over
Former police chief: Chicago illegal immigrant crime 'going to boil over'
CHICAGO, IL — The former police chief of Riverside, Illinois, Tom Weitzel, revealed in an interview Monday that the criminal gangs and organizations of Chicago are reaping the benefits of the illegal immigration crisis with a recruiting bonanza. The thousands of illegal immigrants flooding in, he said, are allowing them to orchestrate crimes with minimal legal consequences and a ready source of disposable manpower.Speaking with Fox News via Zoom, Weitzel explained, "The frustration with this migrant crime is really, I think, going to boil over. You can pull up any article and see that some of these migrants are being arrested three and four and five times, over and over again, and released to commit more crime… It's not an exaggeration to say that it's a revolving door. And the police officers are saying, ‘Just forget it. Why bother? Why bother even making the arrest?’"
The demoralization described by Weitzel has reportedly grown with Chicago as the city and its metropolitan area have become plagued by endemic crimes by illegal immigrants with even outlying businesses and communities falling victim.
Weitzel, who retired in 2021 after a 37-year career policing in Riverside (a Cook County suburb of Chicago) told the outlet that immediately following the 2020 crime wave that devastated the Chicago metro, the illegal immigrant crisis exploded into the area.
Describing the scenario before the storm of illegal immigrants swept the area, he said, "Individuals from the city, gang members, and even gang enterprises, would send individuals out to the suburbs to commit crimes at the suburban malls or residential areas for burglaries. And they would always flee back east to Chicago. That was a pattern that happened every single week."
But now he observed that the recruiting pool for criminals has swollen considerably with illegal immigrants arriving and seeming to link up with pre-existing criminal organizations and gangs who proceed to induct them into the criminal community.
He added that right at the drop-off areas the illegal immigrants are "immediately targeted by these organizations to go out and commit crime."
Weitzel added, "Because would a migrant know where Oak Brook, Illinois, is, which has a very large, high-end shopping mall? Or Lombard, Illinois, or North Riverside, Illinois, which are all communities that have malls. They have no idea those communities even exist. They would have no idea how to get there, where they're located from the city of Chicago transportation. And these criminal enterprises are providing that for these migrants."
Essentially, the criminal groups are reportedly creating an underground infrastructure, a pipeline directly from congested inner-city drop points where Biden Administration DHS busing lands them, straight to vulnerable suburban areas, where police were already stretched thin.
As the chief observed, those Chicago suburbs have seen repeated criminal incursions by illegal immigrants bussed and flown into Chicago with two distinct incidents striking at the Oak Brook Macy's carried out by a total of six illegal immigrant assailants. Oak Brook Police Chief Brian Strockis said just following the incidents, "I believe that six felony arrests in one day illustrates that migrant criminal activity is a real problem."
Weitzel broke down the process telling Fox News that the criminals of Chicago are "giving them transportation, directing them to the buses and trains that go out to the suburbs. They're telling them where these high-end retail stores are in the mall, such as Macy's or other types of retail businesses that they don't even know exist."
"That would be like me…being dropped off in the middle of a city in Ecuador. And I wouldn’t know where the grocery stores are, the schools are, a police station. I would know nothing. The same is happening in the city of Chicago."
Amen.
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