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The Untraceable Firearms Act of 2020

Discussion in 'Law & Order' started by Tanis143, May 16, 2020.

  1. Tanis143

    Tanis143 Sharpshooter

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    This bill sounds good right? Nah, you know those crazy coots will put a good sounding title on on an ugly bill. This one is different than the last few that have been tried in congress. It basically will outlaw building your own firearm and would make it illegal to make your own firearm (currently you can manufacture, as apposed to build, your own firearm as long as you do not sell it and it is not select fire). This is in response to the ATF losing court cases where convicted felons were in possession of built AR lowers. They lost because the lower, even though it is the serialized part of the AR, does not fit the definition of a firearm. So, they will just make it illegal for us to build our own AR's and AK's.

     
  2. cdschoonie

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    Absolutely crazy to see the stupidity of “law makers”. As he said (which we’ve known all along) the ONLY people these laws affect, are us law-abiding citizens, the criminals don’t worry about “lawful vs. unlawful” let alone “right vs. wrong”.
     
  3. cjjtulsa

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    Maybe the goal is to make everyone a criminal? Controls the population, and feeds the for-profit private prison system.
     
  4. MR.T.

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    Here is what I got about this topic in an email;

    Media and politicians push federal ghost gun ban


    I don’t know what’s in the air aside from this virus but it seems that tyrants have been making a serious push to ban things they don’t understand or are afraid of. Almost as if they’re spooked by some apparition. Ghost guns are no different. They’ve also started to streamline the process. This week, CBS brought us 60 Minutes of cringe in the form of a so-called “investigative report,” where they discussed using custom firearms for the commission of other crimes. The report couldn’t have been more poorly executed. They brought on two known hacks - Sheriff Villanueva and former ATF goon David Chipman to give their clearly biased opinions on the matter. Not only was the program deliberately slanted, but it contained a number of factual inaccuracies that could have been addressed with some basic internet research and maybe contacting a couple guys via Twitter.

    Conveniently enough, the newspapers got in on the game on the same day, with the L.A. Times giving Sheriff Villanueva a print and internet soapbox, echoing his sentiments about guns that, although sometimes found at crime scenes, are almost never used to actually commit an assault or murder. Shortly thereafter was an announcement from Politico. Gun grabber extraordinaire, Senator Blumenthal introduced a bill to ban ghost guns, with Senator Warren signing on as a co-sponsor. I’m sure all of this timing was purely coincidental.

    Bills like this are just an attempt by Senators who aren’t doing anything important to pretend that they’re bringing something to the table. They don’t actually accomplish anything, except for criminalizing a generally harmless and constitutionally-protected activity. Considering most of the firearms being seized are tied to the drug trade and other organized crime, it would probably be a better use of Dick and Liz’s time to figure out how to economically disincentivize activities that are already unlawful instead of making criminals out of people who aren’t harming anyone. You can read more, and take action against this garbage campaign here.

    Bernie blows it: Republicans take another bite out of Fourth Amendment protections

    If you thought the Democrats are the only ones jeopardizing your right to privacy, you’re dead wrong. The Senate renewed the Patriot Act this week. That’s right - the set of federal laws that gave the intelligence community sweeping authority to monitor your communications. This time, Senate Republicans modified the Act to enable the government to monitor your browser history without first obtaining a warrant, further diminishing your protections under the Fourth Amendment for the sake of “security.”

    One of the few Senators with some sense on the matter, Ron Wyden of Oregon, introduced a hostile amendment to the Act, attempting to remove this provision. Unfortunately it failed to pass by one vote. Who didn’t show up, you ask? Bernie Sanders. I guess it just wasn’t worth his time to show up and cast a single vote to protect your right to privacy. And in case you were wondering which Senators actively supported government agents monitoring your every move, here’s a list:


    Barasso (R - WY)
    Blackburn (R - TN)
    Blunt (R - MO)
    Boozman (R - AR)
    Burr (R - NC)
    Capito (R - WV)
    Carper (D - DE)
    Casey (D - PA)
    Collins (R - ME)
    Cornyn (R - TX)
    Cotton (R - AR)
    Feinstein (D - CA)
    Fischer (D - NE)
    Graham (R - SC)
    Hassan (D - NH)
    Hyde-Smith (R - MS)
    Inhofe (R - OK)
    Johnson (R - WI)
    Jones (D - AL)
    Kaine (D - VA)
    Lankford (R - OK)
    Manchin (D - WV)
    McConnell (R - KY)
    Perdue (R - GA)
    Portman (R - OH)
    Roberts (R - KS)
    Romney (R - UT)
    Rubio (R - FL)
    Shaheen(D - NH)
    Shelby (R - AL)
    Thune (R - SD)
    Tillis (R - NC)
    Toomey (R - PA)
    Warner (D - VA)
    Whitehouse (D - RI)
    Wicker (R - MS)
    Young (R - IN)


    Internet privacy matters, especially for gun owners. It protects our ability to express our views confidentially, to engage in enterprise, and to exchange information. Imagine, for instance, how difficult it may become to exchange gun files or to engage in advocacy online. And we’re not alone. Anyone whose views don’t align with whatever administration is in charge will be under constant fear of persecution. Not only is this bill a massive blow to your right to privacy, it’s a massive blow to Free Speech.
     
  5. Tanis143

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    Yep, so many repubs who show they work more for the deep state idea than for us meager citizens. If our founding fathers could see what the nation they fought to create as become, they would take up arms in another revolution.
     
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    Gotta love it... even with all the evidence of federal abuse of powers with FISA warrants and such, ain't none of them so-called conservatives up in Washington willing to stand up and protect our freedoms or right to privacy.
     
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    DavidMcMillan Enjoy your life!

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    Even if this were a reasonable law, what value would it add. Traceability of firearms provides little actual information in the investigation of crimes today, due to the resale, trade, etc, of firearms following the initial purchase.

    The only way to make traceability work, is if there is a universal registration, requiring all transfers to be filed with law enforcement agencies.

    That sure seems like the goal of individual bills such as this.
     
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    Betcha those two douche bags from Oklahoma get reelected, though. Again. I have little use for either one of them.
     
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    Of course... getting elected these days is a helluva lot more about name recognition than it is your voting record or your politics.

    <edit> Inhofe is as big a career politician as Boren ever was, or the Kennedys or Bushes, for that matter.
     
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