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Also, if we bought electric cars or shipped them overseas..... They would be carried by ships via non electric.
Ha, this is a circle of funny.
 

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Also, if we bought electric cars or shipped them overseas..... They would be carried by ships via non electric.
Ha, this is a circle of funny.

Sometime within the last few months, I saw an article about a ship lost at sea after suffering from a major fire. The ship was carrying new automobiles, and someone was speculating that the source of the start of the fire was a battery in an electric car.

Massive Cargo Ship Carrying Electric Cars Sinks in Atlantic Ocean After Fire

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The ship caught fire on February 16 near Faial island in Portugal's Azores. Copyright Portuguese Navy via AP

"A large cargo vessel carrying cars has sunk in the Atlantic Ocean, thirteen days after a fire broke out on board.

The ship's manager and Portuguese navy confirmed on Tuesday that the Felicity Ace sank around 400 kilometres off the Azores.

The Panama-flagged vessel was being towed after a salvage team had extinguished the fire, MOL Ship Management in Singapore said in a statement.

The 200-metre-long vessel had been sailing from Germany to the United States before it caught fire last month. Portugal's Air Force had evacuated the 22 crew members, before letting the ship drift for several days in the mid-Atlantic.

Ocean-going tugboats with firefighting equipment had been hosing down the ship’s hull to cool it.

It was not clear how many luxury cars were onboard, but vessels of the Felicity Ace’s size can carry at least 4,000 vehicles.

The ship was transporting electric and non-electric vehicles, according to Portuguese authorities.

Authorities suspect the fire may have broken out due to the lithium batteries used in electric vehicles, but an investigation into the cause of the blaze is still underway.

The Portuguese navy confirmed the sinking of the Felicity Ace, saying it occurred outside Portuguese waters.

There were also concerns that the sunken vessel could pollute the ocean, given that it had been carrying 2,000 metric tons of both fuel and oil.

The Portuguese navy said in a statement that only a few pieces of wreckage and a small patch of oil was visible where the ship went down. The tugboats were breaking up the patch with hoses, it added.

A Portuguese Air Force plane and a Portuguese navy vessel will remain at the scene on the lookout for signs of pollution."
 
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I'm surprised they haven't already banned both gas and wood burning fireplaces and charcoal grills. .
Actually, I believe that licensed builders are no long allowed to install wood burning fireplaces anymore. Most are NG gas logs that do really little to heat a room.
 

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Based on the BTU, NG logs will heat a house, not just a room.

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The NG logs we have heated or 3000 sqft house when we lost power during the ice storm around 2009.

I've only had one, and you had to sit right by the thing to feel any heat. Maybe it was just an early model, this was back in 2004. Lets just say I wasn't impressed.
 

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I've only had one, and you had to sit right by the thing to feel any heat. Maybe it was just an early model, this was back in 2004. Lets just say I wasn't impressed.
It depends. If they're just decorative gas logs, they don't provide much heat. There are some that are basically infa-red heaters that do provide significant heat, and look close to a real wood fire... they're warmer, but usually not quite as realistic looking. Wood fireplaces are very inefficient, the smoke has to vent and they actually pull more heat out of the house as a whole than they provide.
 

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