Not in the pocket but I love the Sig 238
Hands down the Sig P-238. I love the short and easy 1911 trigger pull and the size is perfect for any pocket.
sig 238
This. My P380 has been perfect so far.
3AT - but I have to clean them often, and have had a few issues, so I keep a spare while one is in the factory being repaired.
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I carry the Keltec, its my better than nothing gun. Its reliable enough, Ive run about 1500 or so rounds thru it. I will say it likes hot loads to operate 100% of the time. If I pick up cheap practice ammo, I have a little (very little) trouble with it short stroking and re-chambering the spent round. However with hotter loads I have never had any problems.
Now since getting together with Kings Guns and teaching the SDA CCW class there I have now had the occasion to shoot just about every pocket .380 on the market.
The Sig is NICE, but designed to be carried cocked and locked, not really a pocket gun in my opinion. Now that being said, the felt recoil, handling, sights and accuracy of the Sig are second to none.
The S&W Bodyguard is another fine weapon system. With the added benefit of a slide lock and a safety all located on the control side of the gun, they can be found relativity easily, however by design, they are low profile and would be difficult to work while wet or in the dark without a lot of training. It also offers on some models an integrated laser with right and left side operation in front of the trigger guard. The laser has both steady and flashing modes. Not a big fan of lasers, but it is what it is.
The Ruger LCP, to me, is nothing more than a Keltec with a slide lock. 100% nothing wrong with it, just nothing special.
Taurus makes another pocket gun, a little thicker than the Keltec or Ruger but for the most part, the same gun.
I bought my own Diamond Back DB380, still putting it thru the paces (1000 rounds thru a gun before Ill carry it) and if you are a Glock fan, this will be the gun you like the looks of. So far, maybe 450 rounds into the test period, this will be my replacement for my Keltec. MUCH better sights, about the same trigger, good enough accuracy for the better than nothing gun.
I have found learning to stage the trigger on all these little guns will drastically improve accuracy, however if this is the way you would intend to operate it in a time is life situation, you had better be very well trained and confident with doing so. I really dont believe that any of these weapon systems are a good choice (even if currently the most popular) for an untrained shooter, or someone that does not intend to take it to the range and train, and train, and train. Unfortunately I see the most common buyer for this type of weapon system to be women that MIGHT shoot it once or twice and then it will go in the purse and there it will stay until the need it, however at that point I dont think it will be very effective if Murphy is there.
Just a side note, the Ruger LCR in either .38 or .357 is a great alternative to the pocket guns. Not that much bigger really (a little and a little thicker, I know) but the size difference is nominal compared to the ease of operation of a 5 shot hammerless wheel gun. I carry my LCR 70% of the time I carry (and I carry EVERYDAY), the next 25% of the time I carry a full frame because of having a coat on, or other cold weather clothing. Only the remaining 5% of the time to I switch to my better than nothing .380, The Keltec was bought to be a backup gun while I was a cop, carried on my duty belt behind the left cuff case. But that is my 2 cents.
Now since getting together with Kings Guns and teaching the SDA CCW class there I have now had the occasion to shoot just about every pocket .380 on the market.
The Sig is NICE, but designed to be carried cocked and locked, not really a pocket gun in my opinion. Now that being said, the felt recoil, handling, sights and accuracy of the Sig are second to none.
The S&W Bodyguard is another fine weapon system. With the added benefit of a slide lock and a safety all located on the control side of the gun, they can be found relativity easily, however by design, they are low profile and would be difficult to work while wet or in the dark without a lot of training. It also offers on some models an integrated laser with right and left side operation in front of the trigger guard. The laser has both steady and flashing modes. Not a big fan of lasers, but it is what it is.
The Ruger LCP, to me, is nothing more than a Keltec with a slide lock. 100% nothing wrong with it, just nothing special.
Taurus makes another pocket gun, a little thicker than the Keltec or Ruger but for the most part, the same gun.
I bought my own Diamond Back DB380, still putting it thru the paces (1000 rounds thru a gun before Ill carry it) and if you are a Glock fan, this will be the gun you like the looks of. So far, maybe 450 rounds into the test period, this will be my replacement for my Keltec. MUCH better sights, about the same trigger, good enough accuracy for the better than nothing gun.
I have found learning to stage the trigger on all these little guns will drastically improve accuracy, however if this is the way you would intend to operate it in a time is life situation, you had better be very well trained and confident with doing so. I really dont believe that any of these weapon systems are a good choice (even if currently the most popular) for an untrained shooter, or someone that does not intend to take it to the range and train, and train, and train. Unfortunately I see the most common buyer for this type of weapon system to be women that MIGHT shoot it once or twice and then it will go in the purse and there it will stay until the need it, however at that point I dont think it will be very effective if Murphy is there.
Just a side note, the Ruger LCR in either .38 or .357 is a great alternative to the pocket guns. Not that much bigger really (a little and a little thicker, I know) but the size difference is nominal compared to the ease of operation of a 5 shot hammerless wheel gun. I carry my LCR 70% of the time I carry (and I carry EVERYDAY), the next 25% of the time I carry a full frame because of having a coat on, or other cold weather clothing. Only the remaining 5% of the time to I switch to my better than nothing .380, The Keltec was bought to be a backup gun while I was a cop, carried on my duty belt behind the left cuff case. But that is my 2 cents.
olyeller said:
Here we go.....again. While pocket carry is not the optimum, it's better than a sharp stick and you get to start with you're hand on you're gun if you suspect trouble.
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