Why was the Civil War Fought

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The civil war was started by a redneck in Alabama that made a comment about a yankee wearing sandals with black socks and made the yankee mad so he gave him "one to the hip"!
 

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And do you REALLY believe states are capable of existing on their own, without the Federal government.

Texas is the only state that could do that based on their constitution and corporation set-up AND size!

OK has no chance, isn't the majority of OK still fed land(injin)?
 

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Yikes. You do realize, when concerned with socialized programs, Oklahoma benefits more than those costal states,... right?

Im not saying I advocate ALL social programs, but your lower income states are the ones leeching off of the higher population/higher per capita income states.

Where is the wealth in this country actually created? Sure they trade paper in NYC but the paper they trade represents actual real products created in the middle of the country. That is where our real wealth as a country lies. Sure, California produces actual real goods but it is in the lower populated central valley, not the coastal region. I assure we could get along without the coasts but the coasts would shrivel up and die without the real goods produced in the heart of the country.
 

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We all know why the civil war was fought. It was states rights and slavery. Those two issues went hand in hand. Slavery was decided by the war, although discrimination went on long after. The states rights debate continues on and the outcome of the civil war largely set us towards a more federal govt. heavy path. One causality of the civil war seems to have been the tenth amendment.

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The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

The feds have used their power to regulate commerce as authority to regulate or tax damn near everything we do. Even things that would fall under the 10th amendment. But since the supreme court decides what the constitution means, and their were no states rights players appointed to the bench, we have a federal govt. that thinks it has unlimited authority.
 

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The Civil War was simply an economic war. One of the rural, and agricultural South vs the more populated and industrialized North who had a majority in Congress.
The rich in the South wanted more beneficial policies for economic gain and they didn't get it so they went to war.

+1. It was much less about slavery and much more about trade and economic power struggle. Lincoln was not an anti-slavery abolitionist. He was a free-soiler (opposed the spread of slavery beyond its existing borders) and Republican, not a Conscience Whig abolitionist.
 

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If you are a Yankee, it started over slavery and the need for central control.

If you are a Rebel, it started over States' Rights and lack of influence on the trade laws (Yankees).

Mostly, it started because the industrialized North tried to tell the agrarian South how to run their affairs.

WAAAAAAAAAAAIT.........

BTW, the SCV does not appear to be racist. Don't think it is the same as the Klan.
 

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Because the Founders did it, it must be right!


there are a few reason's why America has lasted as long as it has. our vast resources and the constituion. i believe the constitution was written to be taken literally. if we start eroding away at one of the most important messages of it, we set a dangerous precedent.

i also see that in some ways it has become archaic. but, we must keep it intact as long as possible.
 

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That's probably the primary reason, his campaign platform was to end slavery. He also pushed and passed the 13th amendment.

Lincoln didn't campaign on ending slavery. He really wasn't an abolitionist. If he was, he would have included the border states in the emancipation proclamation. And the 13th amendment wasn't even passed until he was long dead.
 
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