Agreed, I highly doubt Walmart would sell anything more than the standard liquors. It would become unprofitable for them to attempt to sell louis xiii cognac, dom perignon, or even the high end Patron. Their goal is high turnover rate so their main market would be standard brands like captain morgan's spice rum, sky vodka, and the like.
Agreed, I highly doubt Walmart would sell anything more than the standard liquors. It would become unprofitable for them to attempt to sell louis xiii cognac, dom perignon, or even the high end Patron. Their goal is high turnover rate so their main market would be standard brands like captain morgan's spice rum, sky vodka, and the like.
There is beer I can get cold at any QuikTrip in Missouri that isn't even for sale in the entire state of Oklahoma due to our asinine laws and regulations. Adding layers of bureaucracy is never about removing barriers of entry into a market. They are all protectionist regulatory measures, no matter how you slice them.
Also on the argument of competitiveness, Sooner State Pawn and BANG and Sportsworld and H&H still sell plenty of guns even in spite of (because of?) Walmart and Academy being in business. I don't think it's places like WalMart or Costco that boutique liquor stores need to worry about. More like local places like Reasor's or Crest that move volume but also will handle customer requests for products.
Nice, that's kind of like saying only a dedicated brick and mortar FFL should sell firearms because if we allow Wal-Mart to sell them the local dealer will be out of business. Oh, and to keep it equivalent to Oklahoma liquor laws they cant sell any ammo, cleaning supplies, hats or skeet.
Yet somehow 2A, Medlocks, H&H, Outdoor America, Dongs, and half the folks on this board manage in spite of Wal-Mart selling Colt 6920 SOCOMs and 870s. If I want something they dont sell like a Sig P229 Ill go to 2A. Truth be told I'm a gun snob so I will go to a real gun shop anyway.
I doubt Costco or Wal-Mart will carry Old Speckled Hen beer so Ill still be going to a locally owned store for that too.
I just get aggrivated when I read (in a beer magazine) about awesome brands that can't be had here or won't come here but are in states that surround Oklahoma...what the heck?
My main question is how did Oklahoma get this way? Indian territory laws? How did other states not become like us? How do other states work this out and have both liquor stores and grocery stores sell wine, liquor, and beer?
It can be done, we just need to get some State Reps and Senators involved....if that's even possible.
My main question is how did Oklahoma get this way? Indian territory laws? How did other states not become like us? How do other states work this out and have both liquor stores and grocery stores sell wine, liquor, and beer?
It can be done, we just need to get some State Reps and Senators involved....if that's even possible.
Teetotalers then Cronyism, in short.
http://www.okgazette.com/oklahoma/a...story-and-future-of-lir-laws-in-oklahoma.html
no the 3-tier system isn't about tax collection. It makes taxing easier but it specifically prevents major chains from coming in and establishing a "monopoly ".
selling liquor in both independent and major retailers can work IF your state's system is set up that way and everyone has evolved / adjusted to that system.
Yes the tobacco system is very different from the alcohol system in that I think the chains and the local smoke shops buy from the same wholesalers. Walmart can tolerate a much smaller markup than your local cigar store.
Your local liquor stores, if they want to remain competitive, must listen to their customers and carry what that area wants. I can carry just what I like but I wouldn't be in business for long. I can target a market by carrying certain kinds of wines or liquor but I really have to be careful not to alienate the "neighborhood". If I were as big as as Byron's, I could carry a much wider variety and sell some slower moving stuff. It's a fine line to walk.
selling liquor in both independent and major retailers can work IF your state's system is set up that way and everyone has evolved / adjusted to that system.
Yes the tobacco system is very different from the alcohol system in that I think the chains and the local smoke shops buy from the same wholesalers. Walmart can tolerate a much smaller markup than your local cigar store.
Your local liquor stores, if they want to remain competitive, must listen to their customers and carry what that area wants. I can carry just what I like but I wouldn't be in business for long. I can target a market by carrying certain kinds of wines or liquor but I really have to be careful not to alienate the "neighborhood". If I were as big as as Byron's, I could carry a much wider variety and sell some slower moving stuff. It's a fine line to walk.
We could almost change the name of this thread to ***** & moan. I do not believe any adult is 'forced' to live in Oklahoma (possible military exclusion, etc), so that means you choose to live here. Laws in Oklahoma regarding alcohol haven't changed significantly in several decades, and prior changes were several decades before that. So if you weren't here before and moved here, what can I say? If you have always been here, there is nothing that is forcing you to stay.
Epic naïveté. And that's being polite.
Alcohol on tribal...well most is either probibited through tribal law or limited as in a casino only. Funny how they charge for alcohol and beer in Indian casinos here in Oklahoma and not in other state Indian casinos...go figure.
Now what I'd like so see is the tribes invoke sovereignty and sell Cuban cigars!!! Just because the U.S. doesn't do business with Cuba, why can't the Indian Nations/Sovereign Tribes??
Now what I'd like so see is the tribes invoke sovereignty and sell Cuban cigars!!! Just because the U.S. doesn't do business with Cuba, why can't the Indian Nations/Sovereign Tribes??
