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Speaking of facts..... has anyone looked up the trend of infections since the mask mandates have passed? Plenty of time to make a difference since it's been well past 2 weeks here in Tulsa.

Grumpy and I were talking about that last night. Seems infection rates are still climbing in Oklahoma City. It's not supposed to work that way ... :ugh2:
 

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doesn't that only apply to health care providers?
I'm not sure exactly what all it covers and I'm not saying it protects you from being asked why you can't wear a mask, I'm just saying that it is what a lot of people seem to think keeps them from having to answer any health questions.
 

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I'm not sure exactly what all it covers and I'm not saying it protects you from being asked why you can't wear a mask, I'm just saying that it is what a lot of people seem to think keeps them from having to answer any health questions.

I believe they are misinformed there, outside of certain circumstances. And rarely would any law like that be applicable to individuals on the street, i bet.
 

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hmm, page 31 doesn't seem to say a business can't ask about accommodations. Or am i missing it on the page?


-page 11 and 12-
(d) Medical examinations and inquiries
(1) In general. The prohibition against discrimination as referred to in subsection (a) of this
section shall include medical examinations and inquiries.

(2) Preemployment
(A) Prohibited examination or inquiry. Except as provided in paragraph (3), a covered
entity shall not conduct a medical examination or make inquiries of a job applicant as to
whether such applicant is an individual with a disability or as to the nature or severity of
such disability.
(B) Acceptable inquiry. A covered entity may make preemployment inquiries into the
ability of an applicant to perform job-related functions.

(3) Employment entrance examination. A covered entity may require a medical examination
after an offer of employment has been made to a job applicant and prior to the
commencement of the employment duties of such applicant, and may condition an offer of
employment on the results of such examination, if
(A) all entering employees are subjected to such an examination regardless of disability;
(B) information obtained regarding the medical condition or history of the applicant is
collected and maintained on separate forms and in separate medical files and is treated
as a confidential medical record, except that
(i) supervisors and managers may be informed regarding necessary restrictions on
the work or duties of the employee and necessary accommodations;
(ii) first aid and safety personnel may be informed, when appropriate, if the disability
might require emergency treatment; and
(iii) government officials investigating compliance with this chapter shall be provided
relevant information on request; and
(C) the results of such examination are used only in accordance with this subchapter.

(4) Examination and inquiry
(A) Prohibited examinations and inquiries. A covered entity shall not require a medical
examination and shall not make inquiries of an employee as to whether such employee is
an individual with a disability or as to the nature or severity of the disability, unless such
examination or inquiry is shown to be job-related and consistent with business necessity.
(B) Acceptable examinations and inquiries. A covered entity may conduct voluntary
medical examinations, including voluntary medical histories, which are part of an
employee health program available to employees at that work site. A covered entity may
make inquiries into the ability of an employee to perform job-related functions.
(C) Requirement. Information obtained under subparagraph (B) regarding the medical
condition or history of any employee are subject to the requirements of subparagraphs (B)
and (C) of paragraph (3).
 

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-page 11 and 12-
(d) Medical examinations and inquiries
(1) In general. The prohibition against discrimination as referred to in subsection (a) of this
section shall include medical examinations and inquiries.

(2) Preemployment
(A) Prohibited examination or inquiry. Except as provided in paragraph (3), a covered
entity shall not conduct a medical examination or make inquiries of a job applicant as to
whether such applicant is an individual with a disability or as to the nature or severity of
such disability.
(B) Acceptable inquiry. A covered entity may make preemployment inquiries into the
ability of an applicant to perform job-related functions.

(3) Employment entrance examination. A covered entity may require a medical examination
after an offer of employment has been made to a job applicant and prior to the
commencement of the employment duties of such applicant, and may condition an offer of
employment on the results of such examination, if
(A) all entering employees are subjected to such an examination regardless of disability;
(B) information obtained regarding the medical condition or history of the applicant is
collected and maintained on separate forms and in separate medical files and is treated
as a confidential medical record, except that
(i) supervisors and managers may be informed regarding necessary restrictions on
the work or duties of the employee and necessary accommodations;
(ii) first aid and safety personnel may be informed, when appropriate, if the disability
might require emergency treatment; and
(iii) government officials investigating compliance with this chapter shall be provided
relevant information on request; and
(C) the results of such examination are used only in accordance with this subchapter.

(4) Examination and inquiry
(A) Prohibited examinations and inquiries. A covered entity shall not require a medical
examination and shall not make inquiries of an employee as to whether such employee is
an individual with a disability or as to the nature or severity of the disability, unless such
examination or inquiry is shown to be job-related and consistent with business necessity.
(B) Acceptable examinations and inquiries. A covered entity may conduct voluntary
medical examinations, including voluntary medical histories, which are part of an
employee health program available to employees at that work site. A covered entity may
make inquiries into the ability of an employee to perform job-related functions.
(C) Requirement. Information obtained under subparagraph (B) regarding the medical
condition or history of any employee are subject to the requirements of subparagraphs (B)
and (C) of paragraph (3).

Thanks. most of what i've seen deals with employees, not visitors to businesses.

Also, i found this analysis "However, the Pandemic Preparedness in the Workplace and the Americans with Disabilities Act guidance issued by the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) provides that during a pandemic, exceptions to the ADA's restrictions on employer health inquiries allow employers to inquire about an employee's potential infection with the disease and related travel."

Also, another site discusses that the application of ADA for non employees still allows for 'reasonable accomodations'

Examples of reasonable modifications to a face mask policy
  • Allow a person to wear a scarf, loose face covering, or full face shield instead of a face mask;
  • Allow customers to order online with curbside pick-up or no contact delivery in a timely manner;
  • Allow customers to order by phone with curb-side pick-up or no contact delivery in a timely manner;
  • Allow a person to wait in a car for an appointment and enter the building when called or texted; or
  • Offer appointments by telephone or video calls.
and it also states that there are times when businesses can refuse, including
Fundamental Alteration, Undue Burden and Direct Threat.

https://www.adasoutheast.org/ada/publications/legal/ada-and-face-mask-policies.php
 

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