Sorry for the hijack guys ... carry on ... 
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This is a personal opinion, and I have no lab studies and bloodwork drawn up to substantiate any of this. My workouts are an abbreviated form of what they used to be; very quick and rudimentary. I'll do 50 deep knee bends, 10 dead hang chinups, and two sets of 5 on the bench press with 200 pounds. That's all - nothing else. It's not much but at least I stick with it. I am 55 years old and while my face has aged, I have the body of a high school football player. Nevertheless, in order to force myself to work out, I go online and look at MILF pictures. I'll Google something like "Lactating MILFS" and wallah! I suddenly have energy! My opinion is that if you have testicles, you can Google MILF pictures and produce testosterone. This gives me the impetus to bounce that 200 pounds off my chest with confidence.
That's not entirely true...
Any 17A steroid like Tren metabolizes in the liver and can cause liver damage. Doesn't matter if take orally or IM.
"Generally" injectable (especially at a safe prescribed dose for someone with low-T and not an abusive dose) doesn't affect people when compared to something like oral steroids that must be immediately metabolized by the liver when absorbed through the digestive tract...and I did not mention IM, I said sub-Q
We both are right to some degree, it is just the odds that injectable will hurt is very low because it avoids the first-pass effect of hepatic metabolism while the odds that oral will hurt is very high...LUCKILY, most doctors in 2014 do not prescribe orals...transdermals, injectables, and sublinguals are all considered liver safe for the same reason above.
Tell me a man can't produce his own testosterone if he tries. True, it can't last like with injections, but it can still get you under the bar. Used to be, we were told not to have sex before an event, to save that up, and get better lifts. We were told T-Bone steaks on barbell plates.
Or you could lose a nut an die trying to live. Death Is the end process of living. You started dying when you took your first breath.
Honestly, except for the never-ending hot flashes/cold chills it's not been all that bad ... the lack of sleep is the worst ... Poor GC ... Rumor has it I've been "testy" ...No wonder women "of age" are grumpy ...
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I experienced a lot of the same symptoms. Hot flashes ect. Worst for me was the emotions. I'd get ugly then almost cry. I didn't know wtf was happening. Right now I'm feeling great but jeez I can't sleep. Go to bed at 3 or 4am, up at 7. Evrryday.
My wife says welcome to her world.......
Oh I hate oral steroids, I think you'd have to be an idiot to take them. Especially when injectible is safer and works 10x better. As far as oral vs injectable, with things like Winstrol. Iirc it's like 25 pills to equal 1 injection.
Not to mention sides on orals are way worse!
It's some thing I've never understood about guys taking pro hormones. Ya sure you can buy them at GNC or DSN, good ones are only on the market for a little while before banned. But you'll spend $85 on a month month supply of pills, to get minimal gains and nasty sides. Not to mention you still need to take all the same precautions and PCTs with them. All so guys can say.....
I don't take steroids!
Might at well take a real steroid lol
This is a serious question born out of curiosity; will Depo-T IM give the recipient nocturnal emmisions, like what he had as a teenager?
Yes, lifting heavy weights, having sex, eating meat, and running wind sprints (anything explosive) is a good way to raise HGH levels and most likely increases T as well...but if your nuts stop working, and it is genetic, then at some point you may need to do HRT...every man is different.
As for DHEA, Pregnenelone, androstenedione, etc, and those things you refer to as pro-hormones... increasing testosterone also increases estrogen...you have to manage it and not make guesses...there are many factors that affect how these things might affect a guy...age, body fat %, etc...
