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Dennis,

You know that's not what I meant. I'm talking about when people set up feeders and stuff.

Boy kennedy I could have your back on this one for sure. Seems the commercial end of hunting today has stripped us of our values. With all the equipment that contributes to this, ie feeders, treestands, hunting plots cultivated, no scent, the list goes on and on, and on we have become lazy hunters that want the easy ride. What has happened to the way we hunted when I grew up in the 60s. If we scored on a hunt we earned that animal. There was none of the commercial aids that make it soooooooooooooo easy today. Other than hogs and coyotes I have NO interest in hunting. It just has become tooooooo commercialized. Seems the 2 I have an interest in are complete pests to today's way of life in many areas. Target shooting is pretty much it for me. Fishing is much the same way with huge bass boats that are pulled with 40 grand pickups, and parked 8 months of the year. Hey commercialism has duped today's outdoors man. Personally I enjoy sitting below the dam at Oologah with a couple of rods out and relaxing. Just me I guess. Old farts are just too simple I on such matters.
 

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Boy kennedy I could have your back on this one for sure. Seems the commercial end of hunting today has stripped us of our values. With all the equipment that contributes to this, ie feeders, treestands, hunting plots cultivated, no scent, the list goes on and on, and on we have become lazy hunters that want the easy ride. What has happened to the way we hunted when I grew up in the 60s. If we scored on a hunt we earned that animal. There was none of the commercial aids that make it soooooooooooooo easy today. Other than hogs and coyotes I have NO interest in hunting. It just has become tooooooo commercialized. Seems the 2 I have an interest in are complete pests to today's way of life in many areas. Target shooting is pretty much it for me. Fishing is much the same way with huge bass boats that are pulled with 40 grand pickups, and parked 8 months of the year. Hey commercialism has duped today's outdoors man. Personally I enjoy sitting below the dam at Oologah with a couple of rods out and relaxing. Just me I guess. Old farts are just too simple I on such matters.

How does one justify getting food at the grocery store, if sitting in a deer stand next to a feeder is too lazy? Grocery stores and the food industry isn't commercialized to get you to buy their food products? It's soooooooooooooooo easy to walk into Walmart and buy a steak, ground beef, etc. How is that not lazy? The only thing lazier is to go to a restaurant and have your meal cooked for you. Which I do on occasion, so do most Americans at some point during the day or week. Don't tell me I don't earn my game when I go to the field because it's not still the 60's. The hunters from the 1910's could have said the same about the hunters of the 60's............ so in the 60's, did you use the methods/weapons of the 1910's to ensure that you "earned" it? I'm not "duped" either. No more "duped" than those who's meals come from the grocery store. Just me I guess. Younger generation is just too accepting of others interests, and more appreciative of where we've come from I guess.
 

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Boy kennedy I could have your back on this one for sure. Seems the commercial end of hunting today has stripped us of our values. With all the equipment that contributes to this, ie feeders, treestands, hunting plots cultivated, no scent, the list goes on and on, and on we have become lazy hunters that want the easy ride. What has happened to the way we hunted when I grew up in the 60s. If we scored on a hunt we earned that animal. There was none of the commercial aids that make it soooooooooooooo easy today. Other than hogs and coyotes I have NO interest in hunting. It just has become tooooooo commercialized. Seems the 2 I have an interest in are complete pests to today's way of life in many areas. Target shooting is pretty much it for me. Fishing is much the same way with huge bass boats that are pulled with 40 grand pickups, and parked 8 months of the year. Hey commercialism has duped today's outdoors man. Personally I enjoy sitting below the dam at Oologah with a couple of rods out and relaxing. Just me I guess. Old farts are just too simple I on such matters.


Wait! You don't like hunting because it is so commercialized? To much emphasis on tree stands, food plots, scents, etc? So, I assume when you hunt yotes you go out there with your iron-sighted 30/30? Ohhh, you don't? Yes, you probably use $1500 AR or bolt gun in .223 with a $400+ scope, resting on a $50 bipod, camo from head to toe, using a high tech $300-$600 audio caller with a visual stimulator. I also assume, (I like to assume) you really like your "commercial aids" with your yote hunting just like the rest of us deer hunters that use them?
 

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This reminds me of the story of Porky the wild hog. There was once a family in Southwestern Oklahoma named the Bradys. Their property was frequently visited by a herd of wild hogs. They took a great liking to the hogs, to the point that they started naming them. There was a large and majestic boar named Porky who was the head boar of this particular herd. The family got to know these hogs quite well and even got to the point that they could walk up to them, pet them, and generally treat them like pets. Little Sarah Brady even gave Porky a fancy gold chain necklace that looked very stylish nestled among his curly chest hair. Porky became quite well known in the area, to the point of being a bit of a local celebrity to some of the nearby city folk. He was even featured on local news wearing his gold chain necklace and a Hawaiian shirt. School kids would sometimes take field trips to go see Porky. Of course being wild animals, the hogs would wander not only on the Bradys' property, but several of the adjoining neighbors' properties as well. The Bradys did not put up fences or otherwise try to enclose the hogs. Now while the hogs were beloved by the Bradys and were always protected and cared for whenever they were on their property, not all of the Bradys' neighbors felt the same about wild hogs. Many considered them outright pests. A couple of the neighbors leased their land to a hunting company who would sell hunts to hog hunters who were after large trophy boars. This was profitable enough that the hunting company even took to baiting the hogs by leaving feeders and food plots in order to lure them to their property, so as to better sell hunts. One day Porky caught the sweet scent of corn and wandered onto the wrong neighbor's property. Dr. Milk, a proctologist from Oklahoma City, had paid to hunt the property and killed Porky at a feeder. He did not realize it was the beloved hog until he saw the necklace on his dead carcass. The Bradys were heartbroken, as was everyone who knew of Porky. However, everyone realized the basic truth that wild animals are mobile by nature; and while they may be protected in one area, they are nothing but a game animal in another. This was obvious enough to most people that even if they loved Porky, nobody tried to get Dr. Milk fired, protested outside his proctology practice, or sent death threats to him. The only ones who were really upset were fringe elements like the Lawton Vegan Society and the local PETA chapter, who are of course against all animal killing. Most regarded these groups as whackos, and the whole thing as not being particularly newsworthy. It was quickly forgotten in the local media and in most people's minds. The one lesson that most people did learn from the incident is that if you want to protect a particular animal, you should prevent it from traveling to property where hunting is allowed; and if an animal is killed in such a way, you have nothing to complain about, no matter how much you liked the animal.
 

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http://news.yahoo.com/lion-zimbabweans-ask-amid-global-cecil-circus-140822692.html
'What lion?' Zimbabweans ask, amid global Cecil circus
By MacDonald Dzirutwe 7 hours ago
..."Why are the Americans more concerned than us?" said Joseph Mabuwa, a 33-year-old father-of-two cleaning his car in the center of the capital. "We never hear them speak out when villagers are killed by lions and elephants in Hwange."...


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http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/ken-shepherd/2015/07/30/reuters-zimbabweans-bewildered-fuss-over-cecil-lion
Reuters: Zimbabweans Bewildered at Fuss Over Cecil the Lion
By Ken Shepherd | July 30, 2015 | 3:06 PM EDT


PS----Of course the lib dem MSM also has not reported that the Zimbabweans have suffered under the leftist policies of Robert Mugabe. You know the lib dem MSM don’t you, the ones that say "black lives matter."
 
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Do #CecilTheLion fans asking Mugabe for justice know he ate a baby elephant for his 91st birthday?

Close to 300,000 people have signed a petition to “Demand Justice for Cecil the Lion in Zimbabwe,” but there’s a wrinkle — the petition is addressed to Zimbabwe’s awful president, Robert Mugabe:

The petition goes on to ask Mugabe “to stop issuing hunting permits to kill endangered animals!”

But do these signatories asking for justice for animals not know the history of Robert Mugabe and record of genocide against human animals? Apparently not:

And there’s this bit of news the animal-rights activists might have missed. Mugabe basically “ate a whole zoo” for his 91st birthday party:

And not only did Mugabe and his guests eat a baby elephant, Mugabe received a stuffed lion as a “gift”:

His guests were fed a young elephant, and two buffaloes, two sables and five impalas were also donated to the president by a local landowner. He also threw in a lion and a crocodile to be stuffed as an extra gift for Mugabe. On top of this, 40 cows were offered to the president by two members of his government. A second elephant is going to be shot and given to the Victoria Falls community.

But since the lion didn’t have a name and wasn’t killed by a wealthy American, nobody cares.

http://twitchy.com/2015/07/29/do-ce...he-ate-a-baby-elephant-for-his-91st-birthday/
 

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I wonder how much the Hunter actually new about the guides luring the lion out of the park? Whether the dentist was there or not did he know what was going on was illegal? The guide and land owner got in hot water pretty quick so I'm curious if he may be a little more innocent that the heavily biased article is stating.

When I got my last speeding ticket I told the officer I didn't see any speed limits posted. He was nice about it but told me ignorance was no excuse and gave me a ticket anyway.

Throw the book at Palmer. He's a repeat offender.
 

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Another instance where people should be careful before jumping on the bandwagon. This wagon is driven by anti-hunting groups playing on emotions and ignorance, hoping to get more converts and donors.
 

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Did any of you guys watch the movie "Up", in the movie there is a character, Doug the Dog. Doug is a good dog, but easily distracted from his task every time he see's a squirrel. I'm tired of the media treating me like Doug by shouting "squirrel". That is all this is just another case of "squirrel".
 

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