Backdoor gun control- Tax the bullets!

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David2012

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Since the anti gun lobby can't restric guns, it looks like the anti-gun nuts may try and revise a old plan to excessively tax bullets instead.

http://www.fishgame.com/newsblog.php?p=11122

NY Times: Gun’s Don’t Kill, Tax Bullets
August 10, 2012
By Robert Gillock - Web News Editor

In 1993, a United States senator with one of the great political brains of 20th-century America, Daniel Patrick Moynihan, said that we ought to forget gun control as a way to stanch criminal violence. It was hopeless, Senator Moynihan pointed out: even if the sale of new guns was totally forbidden, there were already enough guns in homes and private hands to last the country for 200 years.


“These mostly simple machines last forever,” Mr. Moynihan said.

But he wasn’t through.

“On the other hand, we have only a three-year supply of ammunition.”

His solution: Increase the tax on bullets. He wouldn’t raise the tax on ammunition typically used for target shooting or hunting. But he proposed exorbitant taxes on hollow-tipped bullets designed to penetrate armor and cause devastating damage.

“Ten thousand percent,” Mr. Moynihan said.

That would have made the tax on a 20-cartridge pack of those bullets $1,500. “Guns don’t kill people; bullets do,” said Senator Moynihan, a Democrat who died in 2003.

Another sharp political mind, the comedian Chris Rock, argued that the price of bullets ought to be even higher than what the senator had suggested.

“If a bullet costs $5,000, there’d be no more innocent bystanders,” he said during a routine in the film “Bowling for Columbine.”

In June, the City of New York sold 28,000 pounds of spent shell casings to a an ammunition dealer in Georgia, where they were to be reloaded with bullets. Anyone with $15 can buy a bag of 50, no questions asked, under Georgia law. As The New York Times reported, the city has previously sold shell casings — which are collected at the police target shooting range — to scrap metal dealers, but in this case the highest bidder was the ammunition store.

It was perfectly legal. And jarring, considering that the mayor, Michael R. Bloomberg, has made aggressive gun regulation one of his prime causes, at no small risk to any national political ambitions he might harbor. He has arranged sting buys and filed lawsuits against firearms dealers in other states who, in his view, flouted even the easygoing regulatory regimen of recent years.

But surely, it couldn’t make any sense for the city itself to put more bullets into the weapons economy by recycling casing? After all, the city destroys perfectly usable — and sellable — guns that it recovers from criminals. The sale of the casings must have been the product of someone in an unnoticed cubicle in city government, simply following the bidding rules by rote.

You might think that when learning about the sale, the mayor would have said, “Thanks for the tip.”

Instead, City Hall rose in chorus to sing of the constitutional freedom to own guns and the bullets that go in them. Indeed, the city would gladly sell the next batch of shell casings to a high-bidding ammunition dealer, said John Feinblatt, the criminal justice coordinator. (The dealers of super-size soft drinks, now facing mayoral regulation, must be wondering why the founding fathers couldn’t have added “and drink soda” after the right to “bear arms.”)

Asked about the sale on Monday, the mayor said that people could legally own guns and bullets.

Then one of the most experienced and professional of New York television reporters, Mary Murphy of WPIX, asked Mr. Bloomberg if the city was going to change its policy and not sell shell casings to ammunition dealers. Mr. Bloomberg set forth into a minisermon about how it was an act of integrity.

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Well, fortunately we live in Oklahoma, NOT New York City, and no one takes this "anti-gun lobby" you speak of seriously. They have unpopular ideas and they have no money. Weigh that against the NRA which is VERY active in the community, VERY popular, and has one of the largest campaign coffers of any interest group. Do the math. No sense in scaring people when there is nothing to be afraid of.
 

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ny times, only fit for lining bird cages.

NY Times is useful for SOME things, just not American politics. The primary audience they attract wants an anti-conservative tone to it. Other areas of the paper are pretty good though. International Politics stuff is good. They are one of the best papers for news on China for example.

Fortunately the United States is a representative democracy with a federal system where states and federal govts have different powers and can balance against each other as well as separation of powers at the federal level. McDonald vs. Chicago decision by the supreme court pretty much destroyed a lot of future firearms legislation. Also, beings that it is not a direct democracy, New York, Chicago, Massachusetts, NJ and California can be as crazy as they want about gun laws and it has absolutely no effect on us. In general though we are really seeing a roll back of gun legislation across the board and popularity for gun laws is waning. The gun has reestablished its legacy in American culture and I don't see it going anywhere anytime soon. Especially with so many people (however mistaken they might be) thinking that some sort of "collapse" is imminent. That, plus the history of gun culture we have, plus the contempt for the 94 AWB, combined with the power of the NRA, people REALLY need to stop worrying about something happening and STOP letting Firearm dealers manipulate them.

Its so ironic that people see them as the good guys when in reality they are perpetuating a large portion of all of this fear. Its ridiculous that regular people will listen irrationally to the guy trying to freak them out to make a buck off them. Its like if someone said "Hey you need to buy my water because all the water is going to dry up soon." Rather than laugh in their face like they would with that, with guns, they say "ok how much do you want? I don't care about the cost." It would be a smart business move if it wasn't so unethical... I literally had a gun dealer the other day try to refuse to sell me a part I needed to build a new AR the other day because he was debating whether or not he wanted to pull ALL of his components and just wait until after the election to sell them so he could jack up the prices. These are a prime example of wolves in sheep's clothing...
 

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