Do any of you carry a .380 for CC?

[blutch]

i wonder how the LCP compares in those tests?

B

 

[Burk Cornelius]

Ruger LCP everyday!

There are days when its my only gun and there are days its my backup.

DITTO..........DITTO

 

[inactive]

i wonder how the LCP compares in those tests?

B

I would suspct near identical to the Kel-Tec. I'd also venture that anything with that short a barrel would be very similar (see the Guardian).

That said, I think I need some of that DPX - looks good!

 

[Preacher99]

Keltec p3at when I go some place I can't carry anything else. Better than nothing but not ideal IMHO.

 

[blutch]

anyone want to compare the kel-tec to the LCP?

B

 

[inactive]

anyone want to compare the kel-tec to the LCP?

B

I have handled both but not shot them side by side. Overall they are near identical, quality and fit seemed similar on both. The Ruger appeared finished a bit better, as in it wouldn't need the fluff and buff that the Kel-Tec often needs. After the first 50 rounds through my Ruger, I can attest that it (mine anyway) didn't.

Key comparison points would be:

• Ruger has a slide lock/release while the Kel-Tec does not; understand the Ruger does not lock back on the last round.
• Kel-Tec offers a variety of frame and slide colors, if you're into that, while the Ruger is a Model T ("Any color that he wants as long as it is black").
• I perceived the Ruger has (marginally) larger sights, in a good way.
• The Ruger has a beefier extractor, although I have heard the improved Kel-Tec works sufficiently.
• Both companies excel at service, from all accounts I have read, so call this one a draw.

Here's plenty of reading material on the subject:

http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/xdtalk-chatter-box/84453-kel-tec-p3at-ruger-lcp.html

http://www.theboxotruth.com/newforums/showthread.php?p=18388

http://www.thehighroad.us/showthread.php?t=412712

 

[thayton]

I have shot both and i bought the Ruger, I carry it daily, easy to conceal and better than throwing a rock.

 

[mmcbeat]

There are better options, you do not have to settle for a 380 acp. Carry at least a 38 spec/9 MM as a primary self defense round.

 

[garrett09]

ruger lcp accurate and reliable

 

[JD8]

10% Ballistic Gelatin Tests for:
Corbon .380 80 gr DPX

Testing Platform:
Keltec 3AT

Barrier:
Bare Gelatin


TEST RESULTS:

Round # 1:
Penetration: 8.375”
Recovered Weight: 80.2 gr.
Expansion*: .714 cal.
Velocity: 914.7 fps

* Expansion measured at widest point.



10% Ballistic Gelatin Tests for:
Corbon .380 80 gr DPX

Testing Platform:
Keltec 3AT

Barrier:
Four Layers of Denim


TEST RESULTS:

Round # 1:
Penetration: 6.75”
Recovered Weight: 80.8 gr.
Expansion*: .732 cal.
Velocity: 958.6 fps

* Expansion measured at widest point.



10% Ballistic Gelatin Tests for:
Corbon .380 80 gr DPX

Testing Platform:
North American Arms .380

Barrier:
Four Layers of Denim


TEST RESULTS:

Round # 1:
Penetration: 7.375”
Recovered Weight: 80.7 gr.
Expansion*: .716 cal.
Velocity: 988.8 fps

* Expansion measured at widest point.



10% Ballistic Gelatin Tests for:
Corbon .380 80 gr DPX

Testing Platform:
Walther PPK

Barrier:
Four Layers of Denim


TEST RESULTS:

Round # 1:
Penetration: 7.50”
Recovered Weight: 81.0 gr.
Expansion*: .725 cal.
Velocity: 1085 fps

* Expansion measured at widest point.


Calibration BB Data:
596.9 fps.
3.625 pen.

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No impressed with that penetration at all and that's why I won't carry a .380. .38 rounds perform better.