Firearms vs. Religion

[dennishoddy]

Today, in the Boston Globe, they reported the marathon bombers may have been influenced by radical islamic thinking in a secondary way......

WTF does this mean? They had youtube channels with violent jihadist video's, etc.? Its a secondary thing?

WTF was the primary reason?

 

[TwoForFlinching]

If you line up equal timelines, (remember there is a 600 year offset) Islam is just as violent as Christianity was in this same era of the religion. It will pass

 

[dennishoddy]

If you line up equal timelines, (remember there is a 600 year offset) Islam is just as violent as Christianity was in this same era of the religion. It will pass

How many will die before it passes?

 

[been]

Guns are not destructive by themselves, only when humans come into the equation do things head south. And things rarely head south.

The same can be said with religion.

I dont think govt. should really be monitoring anything. Be it Christianity or Islam. Machine guns or hunting rifles.

 

[n2sooners]

If you line up equal timelines, (remember there is a 600 year offset) Islam is just as violent as Christianity was in this same era of the religion. It will pass

Christianity in and of itself has never been violent. Christianity usurped by the government was violent. But if you go that far back, you will find Islam was violent back then as well and it hasn't 'grown out of it.'

 

[Sanford]

Well ... as with most things it depends on perspective and the particular case under discussion. We've come so far down the road of political correctness that we don't dare do anything that might possibly be interpreted as infringing on the rights of any minority group, be it based on religious preference (or lack thereof), race, sexual orientation, heritage, etc. In this context it's that "profiling" thing - watching a person or persons more closely because of one or another of those various traits - that we've been told is so awful. But is the watching itself an infringement of their rights? Well, that depends on how much you believe a person has a right to privacy.

We (most of us anyway) don't want our names on some central registry as gun owners not only because of 2A, but also because of what we see as our own right to privacy. Do we want to withhold that same right for others? Where to draw the line and under what circumstances is the difficult question. Of course, in both instances the bottom line may well be less about the privacy of the information itself than it is about its potential disclosure and use to cause us harm.

So ... yeah, I have to defend the muslim students' right to privacy as much as I expect my own right to privacy to be respected.

 

[dennishoddy]

Guns are not destructive by themselves, only when humans come into the equation do things head south. And things rarely head south.

The same can be said with religion.

I dont think govt. should really be monitoring anything. Be it Christianity or Islam. Machine guns or hunting rifles.

Been, we have to regulate these things.

To save the life of one child.......

 

[Moore Guns]

Christianity in and of itself has never been violent. Christianity usurped by the government was violent. But if you go that far back, you will find Islam was violent back then as well and it hasn't 'grown out of it.'

Here's my opinion:
Religions are violent because they are made up of humans beings which are inherently violent creatures. They always have and always will as long as they are other religions. We can't all just get along because our brains won't let us. We are too selfish and greedy as well as other things, it's all a factor of our brilliance which led us to the top of the food chain.
It's hard to grasp reality of the world with a bias mind.

Most Christians now days aren't even religious...they just belong to a church because that's how we fit into society.

...all just my opinion.

 

[p238shooter]

From what I know, Christians have killed so they can continue to believe what they believe and be left alone to believe it like they want. Most Christians do not see in the Bible that they should kill everyone who does not believe like they do. To me a little different than the Islam religion.

 

[3inSlugger]

The Golden Rule....let anyone worship whatever they want until it starts hurting other innocent people. Muslims aren't bad people, just like gun owners aren't. The same thing that goes off in your supposedly Christian killer (Kliebold, Lanza, all the others), goes off in the Muslim killers' heads too. We're all human in the end. They kill each other, like we do and they kill us like we kill them.
We just happen to be here in our burger'n'porn utopia while they're stuck in a sandy shi+pit somewhere.