Firearms vs. Religion

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You would have to monitor people of all religions the same way. Remember 1996/1997?

I remember that from 1919 to 1945, that another government monitored religions, and some cults and millions died.




However, this militant cult branch of this particular "religion" needs to be monitored, and stopped IMNSHO, so that millions do not die.
 

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The Golden Rule....let anyone worship whatever they want until it starts hurting other innocent people. Muslims aren't bad people, just like gun owners aren't. The same thing that goes off in your supposedly Christian killer (Kliebold, Lanza, all the others), goes off in the Muslim killers' heads too. We're all human in the end. They kill each other, like we do and they kill us like we kill them.
We just happen to be here in our burger'n'porn utopia while they're stuck in a sandy shi+pit somewhere.

Christians don't have a habit of going to Islamic countries and blowing up the innocent masses because of who they are. Something tells me that if this were to become routine, Christians wouldn't be allowed in, and those that were in, would be told to leave or gathered up and told to leave. I've got nothing against non radical Muslims, just stating a fact. While listening to an interview on Saturday, I don't remember what agency the man represented. The question was asked of him about following up continuously on the older brother since he'd been a potential threat before, and was this a good idea to implement. His response in was " can you imagine the civil liberties groups if we started tracking everyone forever after they were pointed out to us?" So it's hard for me not to believe that political correctness and sacrificing a few Americans is worth shakey at best relationships with Islamic countries because of our dependency on them and not wanting to stir the pot.
 

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Christians don't have a habit of going to Islamic countries and blowing up the innocent masses because of who they are. .
We don't blow them up because of who they are, we blow them up because they hate our freedom.
From their point of view (and I'm not defending their point of view) Blowed up is Blowed up.
 

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I'm not talking about US military, I'm talking one or two Americans(Christian, atheist, agnostic or whatever) taking residence in an Islamic country for years, and doing the same thing these two guys did in Boston. Has that happened before?
 

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Christianity in and of itself has never been violent. Christianity usurped by the government was violent. But if you go that far back, you will find Islam was violent back then as well and it hasn't 'grown out of it.'

I'm not saying christianity is/was violent... I'm simply staying on point in history that christians (the human element) was in fact very violent. Not only to keep prosperity of their religion, but also to eliminate/convert other religions and gain territories. Just like any other sect, theist or monotheist.

Go back further in that book, decedents of Abraham were also very violent. Man, woman, child, beast... Kill them all was the command.

The only difference between the violence in all religions is which religion a person fall in with... Then it's ok, because it's a righteous cause/the greater good.

Islam just seems more violent today, remembering the 600 year offset, they don't have to resort to swords and stones to wage their wars. It still goes on, even in christianity today... It just takes a more political route.

How many will die before it passes?

Probably not enough... That particular extremist right of Islam is completely insane with blood thirst
 

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I'm not talking about US military, I'm talking one or two Americans(Christian, atheist, agnostic or whatever) taking residence in an Islamic country for years, and doing the same thing these two guys did in Boston. Has that happened before?
I can't think of a single example. Of course from their point of view (and I'm not defending their point of view) getting blowed-up by the most powerful organized war machine in the history of the world is almost as bad as getting blowed-up by a few random individuals.
 

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