For those that don't understand

[TenBears]

Glanz is to Bates as Boss Hog is to Roscoe P.

 

[Norman]

No, I don't think he was the murdering type at all. Just too old and incompetent to do the job. Given the circumstances the DA brought the appropriate charge. I don't think he'll get convicted but this does need to be publicly vetted.

You make some accusations and assert that you have an intimate knowledge of Oklahoma Law Enforcement. Do you care to tell what agency and when you reserved?

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[Lurker66]

Well, wanting to be a big-shot JBT and getting a shot off, and wanting to murder someone are two different things. I never said he wanted to murder the guy ... but I will say that firing a tazer or a gun, and a weapon that was NOT authorized for carry by the department and that he had not qualified with at FA training, into a crowd of people (people who arguably had the BG sufficiently subdued) indicates to me that he really WANTED to get a shot off somewhere besides the training center or range.

I don't generally buy the "poor innocent me, I'm a victim of circumstance" argument from BGs ... and I'm not buying it from him now either. There are standards for LE officers ... This guy does not meet those standards and should be dealt with as harshly as the law will allow, both criminally and civilly ... There is plenty of documentation that he had absolutely no regard for the legality or safety of what he was doing as a reserve officer ... I have no reason to believe he had any regard for either the bad guy here or his fellow officers when he fired off what he says he thought was his tazer ...

Given what I've seen of him when he made the rounds on the national morning television circuit ... and what little I've seen of what went on at TSCO with regard to him and his training (or lack thereof), and his attitude towards the position of reserve deputy, in general, I'll stand by my comments.

I think I'll stand by them too. Too bad the other officers didn't slap him in cuffs tho.

 

[surjimmy]

mugsy, covering for a person is not what I'm talking about when I say the Good O Boy system. A perfect example of is just what took place in Tulsa. No way would a 73 yr. old PO be on the street. A few years ago, we had a 60yr old Plus 5'5" female escort a young man prioner in his mid 20's I'm guessing to the dentist. He beat the crap out of her and escaped. There comes a time when you reach a certain age, you should not be put in those situations. FYI, this is from being around Law Enforcement all my life and working at Canadian County, and Ok County.

 

[mugsy]

mugsy, covering for a person is not what I'm talking about when I say the Good O Boy system. A perfect example of is just what took place in Tulsa. No way would a 73 yr. old PO be on the street. A few years ago, we had a 60yr old Plus 5'5" female escort a young man prioner in his mid 20's I'm guessing to the dentist. He beat the crap out of her and escaped. There comes a time when you reach a certain age, you should not be put in those situations. FYI, this is from being around Law Enforcement all my life and working at Canadian County, and Ok County.

I understand and all I was saying is that problems, including those of the nature you mentioned, are not unique to SDs versus PDs. Both have their share of issues including cronyism. If what you meant was that a particular SD has more problems than average, well, that may be. But you aren't the only poster on this board who has implied that SDs are worse than PDs in general and I take exception to that notion.

 

[caojyn]

But you aren't the only poster on this board who has implied that SDs are worse than PDs in general and I take exception to that notion.

They are equally bad

 

[Raoul Duke]

Glanz Gotta Go...

That is all.

 

[Hoov]

yukonjack, what a fantastic post! My neighbor was a cop in Alaska for 25 years. He has told me stories that verify your words. He arrested a few cops and turned down applicants because of shady pasts and background checks. I know of departments both county and municipal that have hired people that should be inmates. Tulsa county and city have had political issues that translated to street issues for as long as I can remember. There are some great officers in Tulsa PD and County. Some have been or are members here. It's their bosses I worry about.