Further destruction of the middle class

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Talk to Tom Petty about the recording industry. Nobody screwed him over.

Id love to chat with Tom Petty. I was referring to his song....the last DJ. The song explains a part of the music industry that determines what music you like. As opposed to freedom of choice.


"The Last DJ"

Well you can't turn him into a company man
You can't turn him into a whore
And the boys upstairs just don't understand anymore
Well the top brass don't like him talking so much
And he won't play what they say to play
And he don't want to change what don't need to change
And there goes the last DJ
Who plays what he wants to play
And says what he wants to say
Hey, hey, hey
And there goes your freedom of choice
There goes the last human voice
There goes the last DJ
Well some folks say they're gonna hang him so high
Because you just can't do what he did
There's some things you just can't put in the minds of those kids
As we celebrate mediocrity all the boys upstairs want to see
How much you'll pay for what you used to get for free
And there goes the last DJ
Who plays what he wants to play
And says what he wants to say
Hey, hey, hey
And there goes your freedom of choice
There goes the last human voice
And there goes the last DJ

[Instrumental break]

Well he got him a station down in Mexico
And sometimes it will kinda come in
And I'll bust a move and remember how it was back then
There goes the last DJ
Who plays what he wants to play
And says what he wants to say
Hey, hey, hey
And there goes your freedom of choice
There goes the last human voice
And there goes the last DJ
 

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And low wages. The good dont outweigh the bad. Giant Corporations are not good for the middle class.

While I don't disagree, what does a Walmart checker or stocker do that requires a special talent that demands more than minimum wage? Honestly, I can't think of anything. lol...Walmart is replacing checkers with shoppers.

How is it Walmart's fault that it's employees lack marketable skills?
 

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While I don't disagree, what does a Walmart checker or stocker do that requires a special talent that demands more than minimum wage? Honestly, I can't think of anything. lol...Walmart is replacing checkers with shoppers.

How is it Walmart's fault that it's employees lack marketable skills?

Again the market doesnt determine a self checkout register. People have no choice. The march into the big store, sometimes the only store now, choose a basket full of crappy meat and unripened fruit, along with some made in china trinkets and yall are calling that a choice for a person who has no marketable skills and must live in squalor to survive because walmart pays minimum wage because the govt mandates a minimum, then they are getting replaced by a self checkout that doesnt work as good as the hapless unskilled checker.

This is a combination of Orwell and Kafka. Its pure craziness. And this company makes Billions and billions at the expense of our Nation.
 

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Again the market doesnt determine a self checkout register. People have no choice. The march into the big store, sometimes the only store now, choose a basket full of crappy meat and unripened fruit, along with some made in china trinkets and yall are calling that a choice for a person who has no marketable skills and must live in squalor to survive because walmart pays minimum wage because the govt mandates a minimum, then they are getting replaced by a self checkout that doesnt work as good as the hapless unskilled checker.

This is a combination of Orwell and Kafka. Its pure craziness. And this company makes Billions and billions at the expense of our Nation.

I have a choice, I don't go to Walmart. The company makes billions because they meet consumer demands. If consumers weren't happy with what the store offers, they would go elsewhere. Running barcoded merchandise over a scanner isn't exactly rocket science....Walmart has proven that it can be done by untrained shoppers with almost no labor cost.

Once again, why should a corporation be forced to pay a high wage to unskilled labor? That's the problem with liberals, they always think that they are owed. Just think, if we and our parents hadn't of demanded cheap **** our kids would have somewhere to work.
 

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If consumers weren't happy with what the store offers, they would go elsewhere.
Where else would one go? Otasco? Oh wait, out of bidness. TG&Y? Nope, wal mart closed them too. Target seems to be the only choice I can think of. There's not a Target within 40 miles of me though. Wal Mart has almost monopolized the retail one stop shopping industry. Monopolies are bad and we know that. Mmmkay...

I'll just leave this here.
http://walmart1percent.org/issues/top-reasons-the-walton-family-and-walmart-are-not-job-creators/
http://www.alternet.org/story/15135...ow_skyrocketing_inequality_is_hurting_america
 

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That was the example you posted. If you want to document the "history of coercing employees" I'm not against looking at your proof. So far, I've not seen any.
June 2002: In a class-action suit in Texas, on behalf of more than 200,000 current and former Wal-Mart workers, statisticians estimate that the company underpaid its Texas workers by $150 million over four years by not paying them for the many times they worked during their daily 15-minute breaks.

August 2002: "More than 8,000 pharmacists filed a class-action lawsuit, charging that Wal-Mart owes them $200 million in pay for 'off the clock' work."

October 2002: The National Organization for Women (NOW) reported that the Maine Department of Labor ordered Wal-Mart to pay the largest fine in state history for violating child labor laws. The Department of Labor discovered 1,436 child labor law infractions at 20 Wal-Mart chains in the state.

December 2002: "A Portland jury issued its unanimous verdict that Wal-Mart violated federal and state wage-and-hour laws by forcing employees at 18 Oregon stores to work overtime without pay from 1994 to 1999."

May 2003: A "tentative agreement" was reached between Wal-Mart and hundreds of pharmacists suing the discount retailer for nearly $45 million in damages. A judge had already ruled in favor of the plaintiffs, in a 1999 summary judgment, that Wal-Mart Stores had violated labor laws by not paying its pharmacists overtime and shorting their paychecks for two years. The case was filed in 1995 on behalf of four Colorado pharmacists and grew to 596, who alleged they had routinely worked "off the clock" for Wal-Mart doing paperwork and other chores. Typically, their work lasted 60 hours, not the 40 hours indicated on Wal-Mart's records, according to the complaint. They alleged that Wal-Mart's failure to pay them overtime compensation, by improperly classifying them as salaried workers, was willful and that the retailer intentionally shortchanged its employees.

November 2003: Wal-Mart said it had received a target letter from the U.S. Attorney's Office saying the world's largest retailer allegedly violated federal immigration laws. On October 23, federal agents arrested about 250 allegedly illegal workers in a 21-state sweep of Wal-Mart stores. A spokesman said that a grand jury would look at whether the company "violated federal immigration laws in connection with the use of third-party floor cleaning contractors." The raids focused on floor cleaners employed by companies Wal-Mart hired for the work. Ten of those arrested were Wal-Mart employees hired as the company continued a move to bring its floor cleaning in-house

2004: Wal-Mart faces 38 state and federal lawsuits filed by hourly workers in 30 states, accusing the company of systematically forcing them to work long hours off the clock. A July 2000 internal audit of 128 Wal-Mart stores found 127 were "not in compliance" with company policies concerning workers not taking breaks

As evidenced by the information provided regarding Wal-Mart's legal record above, alleged labor violations have been a major complaint against the company. What follows is a fuller description of this issue.

"An internal audit of 25,000 employee records at 128 Wal-Mart Stores in the United States, leaked to the New York Times in January 2004 by an unnamed source and now under court seal, cites thousands of labor violations related to working hours. For example, a review of time cards at the 128 stores found 1,371 violations of child labor laws in a single week, including minors working too late, too many hours in a day or during school hours. The audit also reported more than 60,000 instances of workers skipping shift breaks and more than 15,000 cases of workers missing breaks for meals, in violation of most state labor regulations."1 The audit, written by Bret Shipley, a Wal-Mart employee, was carried out in 2000 and distributed to top Wal-Mart executives that year. Wal-Mart officials have downplayed Shipley's findings, saying workers often forgot to punch in and out during breaks or skipped breaks for meals so they could leave early. Mona Williams, Wal-Mart's vice president for communications, told the Times that the Shipley audit "doesn't reflect actual behavior within the facilities." She added that Wal-Mart had not instituted reforms in response to the report, because other Wal-Mart auditors had reviewed Shipley's work and found it flawed. But Wal-Mart's critics contend that the audit plainly reveals that the retailer violates wage and hour laws to pad profits. "Their own analysis confirms that they have a pattern and practice of making their employees work through their breaks and lunch on a regular basis," James Finberg, a lawyer who has worked on several lawsuits against Wal-Mart, told the Times. "What this audit shows is against their own company policy and against the law in almost every state in which they operate."7

"Allegations of similar infractions have been the subject of a spate of lawsuits filed against Wal-Mart in recent years. In December 2002, a federal jury in Portland, Oregon found Wal-Mart guilty of forcing its employees to work overtime without pay from 1994 to 1999. In the four-week trial, dozens of Wal-Mart workers testified that under pressure from their managers they frequently clocked out after 40 hours and continued working. They also claimed that Wal-Mart stores are notoriously understaffed, and store managers required greeters, cashiers, night stock personnel and managers to work additional hours off the clock after their regular shifts ended. Those who refused were subject to demotion or termination. Since then, almost 400 current and former Wal-Mart employees at 18 Oregon stores have joined the two employees in the original lawsuit. The Oregon case was only the first of nearly 40 such lawsuits that have been filed in the United States.

http://www.uwsa.edu/tfunds/walmart1204a.htm
 

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