No. Like keep saying.... you keep moving the goalposts in your argument. We've now progressed to long term "success." Well let's see here.... Baker.... Walked on to 2 Div I schools Broke Records at OU Won the Big 12 every year he played at OU Won the Heisman, after being a finalist the previous year Drafted #1 Took a historically bad team and won more games with the team than the last 3 years combined. Now I know to fit your argument that this might not seem like much, or the "jury is still out." But by most accounts even if he fell off the earth next year he was STILL a success story. None of the individuals you posted accomplished what he has this point in his career. Kyler.... Most people agree that this kid is a freak, his level of talent just isn't seen outside of a every other decade or so. Now I get you don't see it that he would do well in the NFL, there's an aging mentality that you can't scramble, or run, and have to be tall, in the NFL, to do well. When several QBs have done it for years. Now they aren't true "running" QBs but neither is Kyler. Kyler is expected to be drafted in the 1st round of the NFL too, after being drafted in the 1st round of MLB, how many times has that happened? It's reported that the Patriots are salivating over him. In which Belichick is probably not aware of your opinion, you should give him a call.