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caojyn

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In any case, if you don't think 500 casualties and 59 dead isn't effective for 1 man to do, then I don't know what to tell ya
Never said it wasn't effective, just that he's was not this meticulous evil mastermind that he's being made out to be. If he'd been planning something like this for as long as the news is claiming, he could have easily had a higher death & causality rate with the same amount of investment. Maybe I'm wrong and he was essentially a real life supervillain but personally, I'm unimpressed by his efforts.
 

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Never said it wasn't effective, just that he's was not this meticulous evil mastermind that he's being made out to be. If he'd been planning something like this for as long as the news is claiming, he could have easily had a higher death & causality rate with the same amount of investment. Maybe I'm wrong and he was essentially a real life supervillain but personally, I'm unimpressed by his efforts.
Dude, even serial killers don't get it right on their first attempt.
 

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But they always get away, hence the "serial."
No they don't always get away. Serial killers OFTEN leave evidence behind in their first time and even still a little bit less evidence each time they commit the crime. Each time they leave evidence, even though it is less and less each time, the police get closer and closer.

Its the experience each time the killer commits the crime that they perfect it. Unfortunately for the killer, that evidence from the early crimes is what gets the killer caught. NOT the fact that he hadn't been caught yet.
 

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Never said it wasn't effective, just that he's was not this meticulous evil mastermind that he's being made out to be. If he'd been planning something like this for as long as the news is claiming, he could have easily had a higher death & causality rate with the same amount of investment. Maybe I'm wrong and he was essentially a real life supervillain but personally, I'm unimpressed by his efforts.

If he was truly a one man operation without even a valet or a bellman to help carry his stuff into the hotel, I'd have to say he accomplished a lot for his efforts. From what we hear from the news, nothing he did even raised suspicion.

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No they don't always get away. Serial killers OFTEN leave evidence behind in their first time and even still a little bit less evidence each time they commit the crime.
I think we're using 2 different definitions of "getting away." Im using it in the more immediate sense. If the Vegas Dr. Doom had fled and lived to attack another day, I'd say he "got away." To meet the definition of serial killer there has to be a cooling off period between kills, be it a month, year, or decade. If I murder a person a year for 30 years, and eventually get caught after the 30th, my eventual conviction for murder #1 doesn't mean I didn't get away with it for 29 years.
 

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Steve Wynn's interview on Fox Today.
A week after a gunman used the 32nd floor of a Las Vegas hotel as a hunting perch to kill 58 people in what is the deadliest shooting rampage in modern U.S. history, casino magnate Steve Wynn says the gunman was known to staff, seemed like “a rational man,” and that beefing up security, re-training staff and implementing strict “do not disturb” rules are key to keeping visitors safe.

Wynn, the billionaire CEO of Wynn Resorts, in an exclusive interview with “Fox News Sunday,” said he reassessed his casino’s security in 2015, when he developed a high-level counterterrorism program.

“I got every consultant and adviser I can think of to come through from Ray Kelly to the people from Seal Team 6. It took us from Thanksgiving until May to develop and institute and recruit a program of counterterrorism and it will be two years this May,” Wynn told "Fox News Sunday" anchor Chris Wallace.

“Basically we had to recruit and expand security by tens of millions of dollars to cover every entrance, to retrain the entire workforce -- from housekeeping and room service -- and people are in the tower and observing people. We had to cover every exit and every aspect of the building to see if we could identify and preempt any kind of terroristic or violent action. It is never perfect, of course, but what you can do, to use local vernacular: you can change the odds,” Wynn said.

The Las Vegas gunman, Stephen Paddock, reportedly was holed up in his suite at the Mandalay Bay for three days, instituting a type of “do not disturb” policy that Wynn says would have alerted his Wynn Resorts staff to investigate.

“We also have rules about do not disturb,” Wynn said. “If a room goes on do not disturb for more than 12 hours, we investigate. We constantly -- we don't allow guns in this building unless they're being carried by our employees and there's a lot of them. But if anybody's got a gun and we find them continually, we eject them from the hotel.”

Wynn also said Stephen Paddock and his girlfriend were well-known to his staff.

“He's been staying in Las Vegas since ‘06. So you know, we're talking about 11 years with his girlfriend or at least in recent years, frequent visitor, once or twice a month, to this hotel and others. The most vanilla profile one could possibly imagine. A modest gambler at least by our standards, you know, nothing serious, paid promptly, never owed any money anywhere in Las Vegas. He didn't fit the profile of a problem or compulsive gambler.”

When asked whether he had a motive regarding Paddock’s murderous rampage, Wynn suggested that his previous behavior suggested the gunman was “a rational man.”

“Now, this sounds like someone either totally demented -- a behavior which he never evidenced -- or someone who's sending a message. This is a plan. We don't know what that message is or if there is one, but this behavior, according to my employees, is as stunning, as unexpected as anybody, any of them have ever met. And that's the status, you know, that I hear from the sheriff, and watching television that seems to be the moment -- the momentary analysis of this situation. I really don't have anything to add to that.”

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/0...nal-man-steve-wynn-tells-fox-news-sunday.html
 

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