Power transmission is not the largest threat/weakness regarding conversion to electric vehicles

[sherrick13]

Power transmission is not the largest issue with forced mass transition to electric vehicles.

It is strategic.


Charts from https://iea.blob.core.windows.net/a...fCriticalMineralsinCleanEnergyTransitions.pdf




Note the inputs for a conventional car vs an electric car. Note the massive amounts an EV requires over a regular car.

Note the amounts of Lithium, Nickel, Cobalt and Graphite.

The increase in the power generation system required for a massive increase in electric transportation would also require inputs, such as Zinc and rare earth elements.

Note, hydrocarbons mainly only require copper. And much less of it.





Note where the Lithium, Nickel, Cobalt and Graphite, Zinc and rare earths will need to come from.

China, Russia, Indonesia, Congo.



Note for hydro carbons, we are 100% self sufficient. And the main input, Copper, comes from Chile.








But the mining of said elements in only half of the sourcing of said inputs. Processing that raw ore is just as important.

Where does this happen?

China mainly.




Another chart showing the extraction and processing of the various inputs. Note for hydrocarbons the US is basically self sufficient.

For conversion to an electric transportation economy require dependence on various foreign nations.






So we are purposely and consciously trying to move from a transportation economic system in which is nearly 100% America sourced to a transportation economic system that requires input scattered across the world in areas that are economically/diplomatically and even socially problematic. With China being the elephant in the room. China is entering a period that even if we maintain good economic/trading relations with them, they may not be in a social, political and economic environment to continue to service the world's demands for extraction and processing of those elements noted above. But that is for another thread.


So we are, on purpose, moving from a position of incredible strength to a position of weakness and uncertainty. It puts us in a very untenable strategic position economically and even militarily.

Sun Zu would be rolling in his grave. (from the point of view of the United States)

Moving away from a hydrocarbon based transportation system is the most stupid boneheaded decision this country will have ever made.

 

[p238shooter]

Including the waste of time standing around a remote charging station listening to the rumble of the diesel generator charging your total electric car to "save the planet"

 

[Seadog]

This has been the Democrats strategy for decades to make us dependent on the very people that want our demise. Makes no sense until you realize they are bought and paid by these very entities. Just look at the fraud in the White House right now. Beijing Biden

 

[ttown]

https://www.solarreviews.com/blog/charging-and-driving-evs-in-winter

 

[Profreedomokie]

The issue with lithium batteries is that if they are charged in freezing temperatures, it creates a buildup on the insides that shortens the life of the battery. Most people with half a brain see that all this go green bs is nothing but a way to destroy our country, make more Lefties richer, and control our travel.

 

[dlbleak]

And for the environmentalists, how much damage is being done by the mining of the elements in countries that don’t have the regs that America has?
Go hug some trees down in the Congo and see how well that goes.

 

[Frank Pope]

Power transmission is not the largest issue with forced mass transition to electric vehicles.

It is strategic.


Charts from https://iea.blob.core.windows.net/a...fCriticalMineralsinCleanEnergyTransitions.pdf




Note the inputs for a conventional car vs an electric car. Note the massive amounts an EV requires over a regular car.

Note the amounts of Lithium, Nickel, Cobalt and Graphite.

The increase in the power generation system required for a massive increase in electric transportation would also require inputs, such as Zinc and rare earth elements.

Note, hydrocarbons mainly only require copper. And much less of it.





Note where the Lithium, Nickel, Cobalt and Graphite, Zinc and rare earths will need to come from.

China, Russia, Indonesia, Congo.



Note for hydro carbons, we are 100% self sufficient. And the main input, Copper, comes from Chile.








But the mining of said elements in only half of the sourcing of said inputs. Processing that raw ore is just as important.

Where does this happen?

China mainly.




Another chart showing the extraction and processing of the various inputs. Note for hydrocarbons the US is basically self sufficient.

For conversion to an electric transportation economy require dependence on various foreign nations.






So we are purposely and consciously trying to move from a transportation economic system in which is nearly 100% America sourced to a transportation economic system that requires input scattered across the world in areas that are economically/diplomatically and even socially problematic. With China being the elephant in the room. China is entering a period that even if we maintain good economic/trading relations with them, they may not be in a social, political and economic environment to continue to service the world's demands for extraction and processing of those elements noted above. But that is for another thread.


So we are, on purpose, moving from a position of incredible strength to a position of weakness and uncertainty. It puts us in a very untenable strategic position economically and even militarily.

Sun Zu would be rolling in his grave. (from the point of view of the United States)

Moving away from a hydrocarbon based transportation system is the most stupid boneheaded decision this country will have ever made.

EVs are the biggest hoax ever purpetrated on American citizens.

 

[bigred1]

Hey, I'm all for rechargeable batteries and saving the planet when it makes good sense.....that's why I have em mounted on my AR 15s.

 

[j99tc88]

Someone told me because of the extra weight they are going thru a set of tires in a year, then I read th article on tire pollution. It’s worse than emissions from our gas vehicle’s. Personally won’t ever own one.

 

[punxsy]

Power transmission is not the largest issue with forced mass transition to electric vehicles.

It is strategic.


Charts from https://iea.blob.core.windows.net/a...fCriticalMineralsinCleanEnergyTransitions.pdf




Note the inputs for a conventional car vs an electric car. Note the massive amounts an EV requires over a regular car.

Note the amounts of Lithium, Nickel, Cobalt and Graphite.

The increase in the power generation system required for a massive increase in electric transportation would also require inputs, such as Zinc and rare earth elements.

Note, hydrocarbons mainly only require copper. And much less of it.





Note where the Lithium, Nickel, Cobalt and Graphite, Zinc and rare earths will need to come from.

China, Russia, Indonesia, Congo.



Note for hydro carbons, we are 100% self sufficient. And the main input, Copper, comes from Chile.








But the mining of said elements in only half of the sourcing of said inputs. Processing that raw ore is just as important.

Where does this happen?

China mainly.




Another chart showing the extraction and processing of the various inputs. Note for hydrocarbons the US is basically self sufficient.

For conversion to an electric transportation economy require dependence on various foreign nations.






So we are purposely and consciously trying to move from a transportation economic system in which is nearly 100% America sourced to a transportation economic system that requires input scattered across the world in areas that are economically/diplomatically and even socially problematic. With China being the elephant in the room. China is entering a period that even if we maintain good economic/trading relations with them, they may not be in a social, political and economic environment to continue to service the world's demands for extraction and processing of those elements noted above. But that is for another thread.


So we are, on purpose, moving from a position of incredible strength to a position of weakness and uncertainty. It puts us in a very untenable strategic position economically and even militarily.

Sun Zu would be rolling in his grave. (from the point of view of the United States)

Moving away from a hydrocarbon based transportation system is the most stupid boneheaded decision this country will have ever made.

Thanks for all your work on this. A real eye-opener.