Dang, if you guys are buying retail ammo and shooting more than a box a month, there should be a law that you must start reloading. I know all about set up costs and such, and loading 9mm sucks on anything that is not mechanical in some capacity, but $9.95 for federal, hms? was about $15, wwb (which is Waaaay overated) was upwards of $15. This is why I used to load it on a single stage in 1990. Guess components have gone up, and are harder to lay hands on, but that is a hard price to swallow, and that is plain jane full metal jacket ammunition.