putting it into numbers

[Dale00]

Joe Lee's style sure sounds like Bernie's. Fervor - it's all about fervor.



Rich people are evil and should have their wealth taken away. Somehow government is better and can discern how to redistribute wealth. Wealthy people, except the few whom he likes, are evil. Impressive rhetoric but being against bad things does not mean you know how to do something yourself. Expand government and things get better? I think not.

 

[tRidiot]

Expand government and things get better? I think not.

NEVER. Never, never, NEVER.

 

[YukonGlocker]

Joe Lee's style sure sounds like Bernie's. Fervor - it's all about fervor...

If Bernie wins, it won't be because of style and fervor. I don't agree with Bernie on guns, but I'm not a single issue voter either, which makes it tougher to reconcile.

 

[Dale00]

Before voting for Sanders consider that he voted to approve cloture and thereby assure passage of the Dodd-Frank monstrosity. It was a corrupt bailout of "too big to fail" financial institutions involved in creating the housing bubble that nearly put us into a depression when it burst. So much for Sanders and the democrats being enemies of wall street and the wealthy.

http://politics.nytimes.com/congress/votes/111/senate/2/206

 

[Glocktogo]

I get that point. But my guess is if the Supreme Court reinterprets the 2nd, the authorities aren't going to accept this as a reason to keep our guns. For now we'll have to work within the constraints of our current government. If Congress passes gun control legislation, it won't matter. Congress has nearly a year left with Obama, so it wouldn't surprise me to see this tried.

I hate to break it to you, but absolutely nothing you can ever do on the subject will impact how SCOTUS rules on the 2nd Amendment. Likewise, noting you can ever do will impact how socialists view the subject, or the true reasons we have societal issues that create mass shootings. It is impossible to educate someone on these subjects, when they have no intention to ever view them with logic or reason. Data will have no impact. Reasoned debate will have no impact. Laws will have no impact.

Possibly the only thing you could ever do is from a psychology standpoint. If someone comes to you for psychological treatment, you could determine whether they have an irrational fear of firearms and treat that as an illness. If your treatment is successful, then we have one less opponent in the War on Freedom.

 

[YukonGlocker]

I hate to break it to you, but absolutely nothing you can ever do on the subject will impact how SCOTUS rules on the 2nd Amendment. Likewise, noting you can ever do will impact how socialists view the subject, or the true reasons we have societal issues that create mass shootings. It is impossible to educate someone on these subjects, when they have no intention to ever view them with logic or reason. Data will have no impact. Reasoned debate will have no impact. Laws will have no impact...

Psychology, in particular, has had and will have further impact in all these areas. That's part of why I do what I do.

 

[Glocktogo]

Psychology, in particular, has had and will have further impact in all these areas. That's part of why I do what I do.

All the psychology impact I've seen to date has been negative and in most cases, patently false. What to do about that is probably the most important part of the equation.

 

[6 Strings]

The problem with the original post regarding the number of "mass shootings" is that it is misleading and purposely done so to promote the liberal agenda and bed soaking wet-dream of "gun control". Here is a counter from National Review ...

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/427985/media-mass-shootings-count-misleading

 

[Glocktogo]

The problem with the original post regarding the number of "mass shootings" is that it is misleading and purposely done so to promote the liberal agenda and bed soaking wet-dream of "gun control". Here is a counter from National Review ...

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/427985/media-mass-shootings-count-misleading

If you examine their little chart, there's obviously one way to drastically reduce so-called "mass shootings".

Obviously we need to ban weekends and summer.

 

[YukonGlocker]

All the psychology impact I've seen to date has been negative and in most cases, patently false...

Then you've seen very little of psychology (which is impossible because you are still alive), and don't realize how it's linked to the world (which is typically the case). It's definitely been mis-used and mis-applied in law enforcement and the judicial system, and now those systems are very resistant to changing that, but it's happening slowly. However, for a few quick examples, if you use today's medical system for treatment (physical or mental), drive a car, fly in an airplane, use the internet, use any kind of computer/smartphone, have participated in education in any fashion since birth, enjoyed a video game, survived any military experience, and on and on and on, etc....then you've received direct benefits from psychology. There's virtually no aspect of the human experience that isn't influenced positively by psychology. Yeah, it's easier to spot the negative aspects, but the positive ones are breathtaking, yet invisible.