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Question on NFA items (SBR)

Discussion in 'NFA & Class III Discussion' started by TJay74, Jul 21, 2017.

  1. TJay74

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    So my Dad set up an LLC for us back in 2012 and used the LLC to handle the transfer of a Sig- 516 10.5" AR (SBR). We've owned the rifle for years with no issues, Dad has always kept the LLC up to date with the State of Oklahoma.

    Well my Dad passed away back in June, since I was listed on the LLC he had already brought the SBR to me to put in my safe not knowing what the future held in store for him due to his health back in December.

    Since my Dad's passing I have updated the LLC to have me as the agent in charge, my atty has updated the board members that eliminated my Dad and step family and only has it as my wife and I going forward. The SBR has a copy of the 4473 w/ the tax stamp in the stock with the rifle at all times.

    So here is in my question. When you own and posses a NFA item, is there paperwork the owner (my dad) had that has the official tax stamp on it? I thought the 4473 stayed with transferring dealer.

    Other than the changes I have already made, what other paperwork do I need to find or get to insure I have no issues owning, using or possessing this rifle going forward?

    Thanks in advance... Todd
     
  2. Shoot Summ

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    You should have the paperwork with the tax stamp on it, never heard of having the stamp on the stock of the rifle.
     
  3. CAR-AR-M16

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    Are you sure that what you are calling a "4473 w/the tax stamp" is not actually an ATF Form 4 as shown below.

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  4. TJay74

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    CAR-AR you are on point, thank you. I am sorta familiar with the process but just enough to get myself in trouble it seems. Yes, it is the ATF Form 4. My dad had a copy of the form made and laminated and it resides inside of the grip.

    So is this a form that my Dad would have been in possession of, as in it should be in his house somewhere? Does that mean I need to get my hands on it and have it reside with me now as well?
     
  5. CAR-AR-M16

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    Yes you need to find the original and keep it in a safe place such as a safety deposit box. It is proof that your corporation can possess the NFA item.
     
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    Awesome, thank you for the info and help. I am going over to the step mothers house tomorrow, I will look for it then.
     
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    Well I get the great news of my step mom thru the Form 4 away not knowing what it went to or what it was for...GGgggrrrrrr...!!!!

    Luckily the ATF / NFA are going to send me a certified copy at no charge with a new stamp on it. I was almost blown away they didn't charge anything in order to make the request.
     
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    If they do you like they did me, your certified copy of the form 4 will not have a stamp on it. The stamp itself costs $200.00 and they won't be giving those away. The certified copy will be a copy of the second form that was sent in when the application was made.

    It will have a rubber stamp mark and a certifying signature on it.
     
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    I believe Fyrtwuck is correct. Your certified copy will be just as valid as the original, but it won't have an actual stamp on it.
     
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    Well as long as the ATF/NFA call it legal and accept it then I am fine with it.
     
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