Interesting encounter with restaurant employee

[MrShooter]

While I understand your opinion and feel you have a right to it, I don't think that attitude does anything to help the uninformed public understand our side of the coin. The OP made a mistake and handled it ok, based on the restaraunt manager's openess about his lack of experience and willingness to give him the benefit of the doubt.

While there's no requirement to show your SDA permit to non-LE, I see no harm in doing so under the circumstances. The same civil discussion could have ensued, but with the manager being much more reassured about the situation.

Just because you have the right to be obstinate about your rights, doesn't mean it's in the best interest of the CCW community to do so.

+1000000000

My thoughts exactly. I would have been a little morre "easy-going" with the manager and shown him my CCW permit if he asked, you were in a business and their policy is what you need to go by. he could of just walked away happy knowing he met a nice fella with a gun today. lol

Just because its you can doesnt ALWAYS mean you should.

but atleast you didnt make him too nervous to call the cops on you, because i guarantee you, it wouldnt have turned out in your favor. concealed does mean concealed, accident or not.

 

[hipshot]

I would have shown it since that was all that was asked of him to make the people serving him feel safer, what with all of the robberies going on these days of occupied restaurants even in broad daylight. If the cops were called then it might have gotten him a ticket, a warning, or at least a good stern talking to- all in front of other customers. And he would have had to show his permit to the cops anyways, so, whats the big deal in showing it to someone to make them feel more comfortable and relaxed that youre legal and not about to rob them after you have your pie? Infringement of rights, o ya. Whatever.

I probably shouldn't be on here leaving my opinion after drinking a half a fifth of Jim Beam?? I guess I would show him my ccw permit and then seize the opportunity to educate him. Sorry if I ruffled any feathers.

 

[45 shooter]

I find myself wondering what the manager's response / attitude would have been if you had been wearing baggy pants and an Oakland Raiders jersey.

 

[hanson405]

I find myself wondering what the manager's response / attitude would have been if you had been wearing baggy pants and an Oakland Raiders jersey.

Interestingly enough, my boss at chilis (where a no concealed weapons sign hangs, boo), is a huge raiders fan, wears baggy pants, and would probably crap himself if he saw someone's concealed weapon

 

[upnover]

sounds like an interesting confrontation, i bet the mgr wasent looking forward to approaching you to ask if you were licensed!

 

[dx3]

Thank you everyone for your responses. I appreciate everyone's opinion, but still wouldn't have done anything differently than what I did. Sorry if that bothers some of you...

 

[MLR]

Originally Posted by aestus
Anyways, you're lucky. If this was downtown, cops would have been called without anybody even speaking to you and you probably would have been slapped with a ticket/escorted out and gotten a really hard time from the police. I've seen it happen a couple of times to other CCL holders.

Please let me know what the ticket was for and how they were escorted out?

Just curious.

I would like to know about this as well.

Michael

 

[Lithiumokc]

Its this standoffish attitude that paints armed Americans in a negative light. Take the time to educate the person.. I read somewhere that CCW permits are being forged more and more everyday. Let him see what a real one looks like, give him some pointers to use the next time he wants to approach an armed person. For all we know, this guy went home telling his friends and family about the nut job extremist with a gun at work today.

However, we have the right to react however we feel necessary, I just hope you didnt turn another American into an anti gun person.

 

[bernardderek]

My grandpa always said "Just because you can do something, doesnt mean that you always should." Very wise words in my opinion.

 

[cmhbob]

Not an ancient thread here, so I don't feel bad about jumping in.

I think dx3 handled it just fine. There's no reason to show your permit someone not in authority. If he had asked for your DL, would anyone have felt obligated in any way to show it? "Sir, one of our employees noticed you driving a car just a moment ago..." Your permit has identifying information on it, and you exactly nothing about the fast-food manager everyone is so eager to show the permit to. What other strangers would you randomly show your CWL to?

I think he did educate the manager as well as he needed to do ("This was my fault, I should have checked my shirt when I left the bathroom. The whole point of a concealed carry is to keep it concealed and I apparently didn't do that. My fault.")