Question for military guys.

[vooduchikn]

Active Duty Navy Officer here (yes, in Oklahoma) with 20+ years.

This is simple:

Ask to see a DD-214 if he was discharged. If he is active he will show you his active duty card if you ask. There is nothing mysterious about either The ID card should be a white Common Access Card.

If he shows you a DD-214, note the discharge code. Just because someone got an "honorable" discharge doesn't mean he isn't a nutjob (RE code on the DD-214)

If he wont show either, show him the door, and do it quickly, before he is a liabilty.

No such thing as a free dog.

 

[mugsy]

I served in the Navy from 83-93. There is absolutely no reason for him to not show you his DD-214 (unless he doesn't have one). It is perfectly normal for any business to ask to see a copy to verify service for an advertised discount. However if he is active duty he should have a green ID card and won't have a DD-214 unless he has re-enlisted at least 1x. I would ask for proof of service. ID Card , Green = Active duty, Red = retired. No ID then he is not active duty or retired and would have a DD-214 to verify dates of service and discharge status.

Hmmm....I just retired about 24 months ago and my ID card is blue. Is that a change in card colors or does it vary by officer/enlisted?

 

[dennishoddy]

Not that I know of, I held one of the highest classifications I know of...which is 20 years gone by...but still. I doubt there is anything on anyone's DD214 that isn't for public consumption. I have mine registered with the County I live in, which is normal practice.

Exactly. Working as a ground station communication tech for Airforce one back in the Nixon day, after coming back from overseas deployment, they had to maintain secure communications which got me a clearance way up there.
Cold war stuff.

I actually have several DD 214's. In the 70's one could enlist in the service with a delayed entry. It basically put one in the Reserves for 6 months. Shortly after I went active, I got a DD214.
5 1/2 years later after getting off of active duty, got another.
Joined the Army Reserve after discharge, and got another when I got out 11 years later. When I got out, I registered all of them with the country I live in. They made legal copies, and I have the originals at home, and no they do not provide a whole lot of information to anybody.

I'd be more than happy to produce them for a military discount. The guy is a fraud.

 

[uncle money bags]

What Army spec ops is he claiming to be?

 

[TerryMiller]

Service in the Army Security Agency back in the '60's. In our job, we had to have a top secret clearance. In addition, some of us were a "group" of non-combat enlisted men that worked a system that to this day still seems to be classified as I can't find anything about it anywhere on the internet.

With that said, the only thing on my DD-214, other than my social security number, is a suffix on the basic MOS designator that would indicate my extra training and duties. Even that suffix is not classified and thus not allowable to be displayed to non-military. Thus, as the others have said, I would guess that he has to have either a current ID card if active, a current retired ID card if retired or a DD-214 if discharged.

As for "Maggie's Drawers," when I took Basic in 1966, our range did not utilize such actions, not have people downrange to check targets. Beyond Basic, I had very little to do with firearms, except for some training classes where we did, so I don't know if other places used the signaling devices.

Bill him or boot him.

 

[Fyrtwuck]

It was about 25-30 years ago, but there was an Army Reserve Special Forces unit (12th SFG) in Okc at NE 36 & MLK next door to the museum. When I was in the Ok Air Natl Guard they would take deployment trips on our C-130's. The ones I got the chance to know we're pretty good guys and would share some stories. They were disbanded a few years later.

 

[Zombie]

It was about 25 years ago, but there was an Army Reserve Special Forces unit (12th SFG) in Okc at NE 36 & MLK next door to the museum. When I was in the Ok Air Natl Guard they would take deployment trips on our C-130's. The ones I got the chance to know we're pretty good guys and would share some stories. They were disbanded a few years later.

that would be the billy a krause reserve center - they don't/didn't have luck keeping a unit there it seems. I know the center has been on the chopping block many times but unsure if still used.

 

[recon279]

texas national guard has a special forces but..if he cant show dd-214 or id hes a poser i would like too meet him

 

[Drebin]

I was never in the military but I met a guy like this once and boy did he piss me off. He would never admit to lying but it was so obvious he was. Boot his ass out with no refund. You might give him a few choice words to take with him.

 

[Stephen Cue]

He is a poser. Your a civilian no need to call him by his fake rank. Let me guess he also got a MOH, 3 Silver Stars and a Good Cookie metal while fighting the Germans at Iwo Jima after he shot OBL. I am sick of these guys posing. I would be more than happy to talk to this guy for you. Also you can report him for stole valor if he wears any metals with the intention of fraud. And thats a felony.
Semper Fi

at 56....claiming spec ops active in Tulsa? No. tell him produce sufficient documents backing his claims. Also if you use facebook turn him and his info in on the stolen valor page. If he can not or will not produce ID and a dd-214 (with his time in service allotted he will have AT LEAST 1) and no reason not to produce. Tell him to verify his info or he will be booted no refund. I would not continue training him until verifying.

e: also as a civilian his request to be called sergeant is ridiculous....and for you old timers my father's retired ID is more of a pink laminated...but he is a retired officer. I'm just a plain old guy who finished an 8 year enlistment

Active Duty Navy Officer here (yes, in Oklahoma) with 20+ years.

This is simple:

Ask to see a DD-214 if he was discharged. If he is active he will show you his active duty card if you ask. There is nothing mysterious about either The ID card should be a white Common Access Card.

If he shows you a DD-214, note the discharge code. Just because someone got an "honorable" discharge doesn't mean he isn't a nutjob (RE code on the DD-214)

If he wont show either, show him the door, and do it quickly, before he is a liabilty.

No such thing as a free dog.

Funny, last month we had a full Navy Captain (retired) take one of our instructor courses. I said sir you deserved to be called Captain, how should I address you. He smiled and just said call me Don. I thought that was real classy.

What Army spec ops is he claiming to be?

He wont tell me, its classified due to the nature of the security clearance. A couple of times he said he had to check with his commanders to see what he was allowed to teach because of he security clearances.

LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!

I tell you, I might keep him around and make some youtube videos about Tactical survival skills and Urban wilderness tactics