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Weatherby

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You honestly think our founders would accept gays?

"Friedrich Wilhelm Augustin Ludolf Gerhard (Frederick William Augustus Henry Ferdinand) von Steuben also referred to as the Baron von Steuben,<1> (September 17, 1730 – November 28, 1794) was a Prussian homosexual aristocrat and military officer who served as inspector general and Major general of the Continental Army during the American Revolutionary War. He is credited with teaching the Continental Army the essentials of military drill and discipline, helping to guide it to victory. He wrote the Revolutionary War Drill Manual, the book that became the standard United States drill manual until the War of 1812, and served as General George Washington's chief of staff in the final years of the war."

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1. Sounds like these parents aren't so decent after all, as this teaches intolerance. Many "decent" people didn't want their pure white children being taught alongside filthy blacks. Ignorance is ignorance.

2. The schools should teach facts. Scientific evidence suggests that homosexuality is of biological doing. It's displayed in the animal world across the majority of species. Before you use the argument that, "Well animals don't have a conscious, so that doesn't count!", science evidence also suggests that animals do, in fact, possess consciousness. Church is where children get indoctrinated to hate anyone who is different than themselves.

3. Touching on #2, it is not a choice. Why would anyone CHOOSE to be a minority known for discrimination, social torment, bullying, assault, and brutal murder? Did you choose to be straight? Choose to find another man sexually and emotionally attractive. You can't, can you? Try as hard as you can and it won't work, assuming you're a heterosexual. Maybe then you will realize how it's just as impossible for a gay man to find a woman sexually and emotionally attractive.

Libertarian my straight white ass.

They accepted slavery, so maybe the moral compass of humanity has shifted. It might seem that way to some.

And it has only gotten worse sadly. Its a shame but it sure seems that way. ALso the black unemployment rate was much lower then than now and we did not have welfare and all the leeches
 

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Had to stop reading on page 4, but for those who are leaving the country over this, please leave the lights on. I'm staying until homosexuality becomes an airborne pathogen. Then I'll probably run.

Marriage can be viewed as a religious thing, in which case States should stay the hell away from it. But, States and the Nation have gotten involved. That was the mistake.

Repeating myself here, "Get your church outta my State!"
 

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Had to stop reading on page 4, but for those who are leaving the country over this, please leave the lights on. I'm staying until homosexuality becomes an airborne pathogen. Then I'll probably run.

Marriage can be viewed as a religious thing, in which case States should stay the hell away from it. But, States and the Nation have gotten involved. That was the mistake.

Repeating myself here, "Get your church outta my State!"
You may want to read page 7
 

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The amount of logical leaps/failure is astounding for one post.

1, Teaching the bible is intolerance? I'll be intolerant and proud. When the country goes to hell don't say you were not warned.

&&&& yes many decent people did not want their kids in school with blacks. Now today we can all say segregation is wrong, but can we say our country is safer? Look at Detroit in the 50s and then today. You cant argue facts. Since the civil rights movement our country has gone to hell. It might not be because of it, but sure does seem to happen along with it from the destruction of the family to the sanctioning of murdering children in the womb, men being able to marry men, illegal vermin getting to stay in a country they should not be in. I am sure a white Christian woman would not have to worry about being raped or robbed as much as she does today in places like Philadelphia, Baltimore, or Detroit as much in the 50s as she does today. If that is racist then I am sorry, but I don't think anyone intelligent can disagree with the difference in time. Also if segregation still existed Obama would not be president. Sorry but that in an of itself makes it look good. And no I don't support it. I just look at facts.

So you'd rather have safety at the cost of other's liberties? Interesting for someone to wants to rely on Original Intent so much.

You're somehow wanting to connect point A to point E but failing. There have always been 'bad neighborhoods,' you're just more aware of them now because they aren't hidden from sight like they were in the past. Sure, maybe someone living in those areas is more likely to hurt someone when they don't fear the lynch mob, but i'm guessing there is more to the problems caused by urbanization than just race.

I am libertarian leaning on some issues and a registered democrat.

IF you are straight and white get some pride in your heritage. A more liberal version of you is how we have this mess in the country. Liberal whites caused most problems we can think of from how much cesspools most of our cities are to the way our nation has been browned by the immigration law of ted kennedy.

The less white and christen our nation gets the worse it seems to get and I predict it will be gone in 50 years if things are not changed. You can look at south Africa when non-whites took over. Look at Detroit. They went to hell.

QUestion what would George Washington say if he were alive today?

Answer "We should have grown our own damn tobacco"

What do I say as a southerner. "If I had know this I would have picked my own damn cotton"

I'm know nothing i say will change how backwards your views are, so i'm not sure it's worth trying. If you'd have picked your 'own damn cotton' all those years ago, the south you proclaim to love would look nothing like it does today and would have been a vastly different place. The slave economy that propped the south up for so many years wouldn't have existed and who is to say things would be any better.

there have been many times on this board where i've felt people are mistaken but i've always respected that they were entitled to their own opinion. After your reading your post i can honestly say i've never felt more pity for another person on this board for their views. I truly feel sorry for you. I live in the deep south and there are many great things about it, but the views you expressed here are not part of it. Your statements show how you'll pick a single issue (race) and use it to justify all of society's problems, using broad, overgeneralized and faulty logic.

It's nice to know that you don't want any gay white christians to be proud of being southern, though. I've always thought that some people really truly think it's about heritage and not hate, but it's becoming more and more obvious that there are some who can't separate one from the other.

And please don't feel like this is in any way a personal attack. It's not. Though I'm sure it will only add to your sense of persecution, please believe me when i say that i have so little respect for the things you've said here that i don't feel the need to attack you. You've done more harm to your position then i ever could.
 

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