Oh Norman............PD Alert........The Left is Gaining Ground

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tRidiot

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The Police who leave show they weren’t in it for actually help. If money gets you to abandon your home/neighborhood then you’re not committed. Officers need to quit being protected by their union and have consequences for their actions. If they can’t handle being a cop then maybe they should stay away from retail and food service too.

I disagree. It's a much more complicated issue than just saying they didn't want to help. That's a BS cop-out (no pun intended). These are people, men and women who risk their lives to perform a duty - they shouldn't have to worry about being lambasted, vilified and drug through the mud every day for doing their jobs the right way (I'm not trying to defend bad officers), and knowing beyond a shadow of a doubt your city, the public and your administration is NOT behind you, does NOT have your back and will drop you like a hot potato and kneel (literally) at the feet of BLM protesters, hanging you out to dry and throwing you to the wolves is a perfectly good reason to turn in your shield and tell them to go get f***ed.

Just my $0.02.
 

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The Police who leave show they weren’t in it for actually help.
I can pretty much guarantee you that it's not about the money, it's about the message those cuts send. Why would you want to work for an organization whose bosses who have just sent the unmistakable message that they don't support you, especially when it is a job where you're pretty much guaranteed to be heading into contentious situations?
 

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HOW can they freeze retirements? If I’ve got my 20 plus years in or disabled in the line of duty, how are they going to stop me? I think the PD or the media is trying to use fear to get attention. Possibly for more money.

130 officers in a week x 52 weeks= 6760 per year in a department with 35 thousand plus officers. There may be some increase, but I think they also have back to back academies to cover their losses.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/nypd-retirement-applications-surge

Sorry, it was 180. They cant process all those retirements, so you can put in for it, but it wont get approved, and your paperwork is gonna get slow walked. And even running back to back academies, wont cover that attrition. Academies at full capacity back to back barely cover natural attrition. I see it on our dept here. Even at over capacity, back to back, and a 10-30 percent loss in the academy, we cant keep up. And there have been some academies that have only retained 30% by the time they are on the streets on their own while on probationary status. Plus, with that mass exodus, and needing to increase hiring by the same, your applicant pools are decreasing. You have fewer and fewer qualified applicants, or applicants period because people dont want to have to put up with the ******** an officer does now a days. We've seen that for a few years nationwide. Why do you think DFW PD runs job fairs in NY, etc? Lateral transfers for officers with 15-20 years, hiring experienced cops at 6 figures, who will now have their NYPD retirement, and DFW retirement, and live in a tropical like climate with a lower cost of living?
 

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I wish them luck. Some of the city council decisions in Norman as of late are asinine. I'm glad to see citizens using the proper means to affect change in their city.
This isn't something that happened overnight; I can tell you that I haven't voted for a city proposal or a city council incumbent in, oh, twenty years. When we voted down a proposal for a list of unnecessary "civic projects" (their "excuses" for them were all imbecilic), then had them go forward with every damn one of them, I started voting against everything they proposed.

The real pisser about this "defund the NPD" nonsense is that NPD has always been a fairly laid back force, especially for a college town.
 

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This isn't something that happened overnight; I can tell you that I haven't voted for a city proposal or a city council incumbent in, oh, twenty years. When we voted down a proposal for a list of unnecessary "civic projects" (their "excuses" for them were all imbecilic), then had them go forward with every damn one of them, I started voting against everything they proposed.

The real pisser about this "defund the NPD" nonsense is that NPD has always been a fairly laid back force, especially for a college town.

Same here. I never vote for a tax, bond, or judge. No on every one, every time. Every one I talk to says the same but it always seems like they just cruise to victory.


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HOW can they freeze retirements? If I’ve got my 20 plus years in or disabled in the line of duty, how are they going to stop me? I think the PD or the media is trying to use fear to get attention. Possibly for more money.

130 officers in a week x 52 weeks= 6760 per year in a department with 35 thousand plus officers. There may be some increase, but I think they also have back to back academies to cover their losses.

I could be wrong, but I think I heard that DeBlasio stated that they were suspending at least a couple of academies. It might have been more than that.
 

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They should be voting for MORE funding for military style gear and vehicles. How else they gonna enforce totalitarian laws?
I was driving through Seminole today by the police station and they had a black humvy sitting there. What the heck do they need that for? I don’t get it. Those things are pretty dang expensive too. I’m sure they could have spent that money on much better stuff.
 
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