Remington 870 Wingmaster 410 Inflated Price…Why?

[PBramble]

Remingtons stuff before quality went down is up. I got a 1100 recently and it's insane what I'm willing to pay.

FIFY

 

[Bocephus123]

You probably paid too much

 

[Bocephus123]

If that's what they're selling for, then that's pretty much what they're worth. To those buying them, anyway. Obviously, you wouldn't pay that because it isn't worth that to you. But if you choose to buy a .410 from brand "X" for $400, the guy who wants the Remington from the early 80s might look at your new gun and say, "Nice gun, but not worth that price to me."

Vintage firearms from 40 years ago (like the OP's 1983 Wingmaster) aren't being made any longer and that's part of the appeal and thus the increase in price. That doesn't mean there aren't nice substitute guns out there. That really doesn't factor into the equation.

I happen to really like S&W 3rd Gen autos. I started buying a bunch of them during the 2000s because you could get them for next to nothing. Now they're going for 2 or 3 times what they did new, at least. There's really nothing special about them, either. They're very outdated by today's standards. But, they're popular now and there's a finite supply of them in the wild. That adds up to increased cost.

Like I said overinflated just like you just said but you wrote a book to express it.

 

[PBramble]

You probably paid too much

Don't get me wrong. An item is worth as much as someone is willing to pay. Some will pay more for ownership than others, but it's all up to the individual. That goes for anything. Of course there is a bottom line for everything and it will never go lower than that, regardless of market price. The point of diminishing returns remains and when the item loses value below what was paid for it, it generally makes that person feel bad about jumping on that purchase at such a high price. Another issue that arises is collectors. They are willing to pay a higher price for something that will not be used and, no matter what they say, looked at very little. That's just a prestige thing. In this market, firearms are tools that are meant to be used. There should be appreciable wear and tear on them, which in turn, affects pricing. If anyone thinks an 1100 limited edition is worth 1500 bucks, I have a 20LW (only produced for around two years) I might be looking to get rid of. Then again, considering I have a fitted slug barrel, the original barrel and a fitted remchoke barrel for it, and it's been drilled and tapped for a scope rail, it might be closer to 2500.

 

[Bocephus123]

Not for me I refuse to pay it. but you’re right it’s market driven and they drove it right through the roof. but in that respect i was talking to a driver ive know for a few years now and he got a 870 wing master 16 ga a couple months ago for $ 350 he said it’s mint with the box so I guess it amounts to what you can find .O well.

 

[OK Corgi Rancher]

Like I said overinflated just like you just said but you wrote a book to express it.

Yeah...no. That's not what I said. I can explain it to you, I can't understand it for you. But I'm not sure you can, either.

But that's OK. We'll just disagree. That's allowed.

 

[Bocephus123]

Yeah...no. That's not what I said. I can explain it to you, I can't understand it for you. But I'm not sure you can, either.

But that's OK. We'll just disagree. That's allowed.

True and I understand very well nothing against you

 

[dennishoddy]

https://www.sportsmansguide.com/pro...8723e11ec808801840a1c0e0e&cjdata=MXxOfDB8WXww

That deserves further looking at. Thanks!

 

[SoonerP226]

I remember guys looking for .410 shotguns back in the '90s; aside from $50 break-open single shots, they were stupid expensive back then, especially double-barrels. Nobody wanted them while they were being made, but once they went off the new market, everybody and his dog wanted one...

 

[joegrizzy]

it's just like lever actions. there was a time when levers were definitely cheaper and easier to come by than semi autos, but now it seems almost any level gun fetches a premium. just the way it is.

and saying "overinflated" when the price of gas has tripled, meat has almost doubled, all in the last like two years is uh.....yeah i don't what else to say.