Florida Officer Collapses After Being Exposed To Fentanyl

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It's the new "logic". The Left has no corner on the market for emotion trumping reason.

I mean, how could a medical person have more firsthand knowledge than a cop? What are you, BLM?
Not to disparage someone that has a very important role in society, but being an EMT compared to a doctor is like being a security guard compared to a police officer. It is true that an EMT can rightfully say they are in the medical field in the same way that a security guard can rightfully say they are in law enforcement.
I would suspect that the potency of the 'street' Fentanyl most commonly found in Tulsa, or even OKC is a lot less than what can be typically obtained in a larger drug market (where there is a lot more competition) like LA or Atlanta. Just because First Responders aren't dropping like flies here does not mean they aren't doing so somewhere else. So you boys stop your bickering and move on.
 

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Maybe because I was there and saw what happened and talked to the paramedic and ER docs afterwards and I don't know you? Just a WAG though... I'll offer this though, the guy it happened to is a combat corpsman with three tours under his belt. He most certainly did not have an anxiety attack.
I was there and saw what happened and talked to the paramedic and ER docs afterwards
That’s why I asked you to tell me how the exposure happened. Explain how he came into contact, what his symptoms were, what the paramedic did (and was there only one on scene?) and what the ER doctor told you.

guy it happened to is a combat corpsman with three tours under his belt.
Because no soldier has ever served honorably under the weight of combat to return home and suffer from post traumatic stress.

For what it’s worth, I never said he had an anxiety attack. But I asked you to clarify with details from the situation and you’ve only deflected. Of course you don’t personally know me; if that is a qualifier for you to give your information out, why are you here commenting anyway?
 

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Not to disparage someone that has a very important role in society, but being an EMT compared to a doctor is like being a security guard compared to a police officer. It is true that an EMT can rightfully say they are in the medical field in the same way that a security guard can rightfully say they are in law enforcement.
I would suspect that the potency of the 'street' Fentanyl most commonly found in Tulsa, or even OKC is a lot less than what can be typically obtained in a larger drug market (where there is a lot more competition) like LA or Atlanta. Just because First Responders aren't dropping like flies here does not mean they aren't doing so somewhere else. So you boys stop your bickering and move on.
The information I’m trying to impress upon these guys is that which has been passed down from Medical Control and the doctors that oversee it, along with empirical evidence from toxicology reports taken of police officers after they have had exposures and “reactions”. I never said my licensure specifically grants me a seat at the table alongside medical doctors, but the knowledge I have is from those doctors, not just from my firsthand experience (though I’d imagine it’s more than most in this conversation).

As for you stating we have less potent drugs than other areas of the nation, that’s a an illogical inference based on a general assumption of more crime in those areas. OKC is where a vast majority of Mexican cartel drug shipments come to be dispelled across the nation, and dealers are not just handing out stepped on product due to less competition here as opposed to other areas.
 

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The information I’m trying to impress upon these guys is that which has been passed down from Medical Control and the doctors that oversee it, along with empirical evidence from toxicology reports taken of police officers after they have had exposures and “reactions”. I never said my licensure specifically grants me a seat at the table alongside medical doctors, but the knowledge I have is from those doctors, not just from my firsthand experience (though I’d imagine it’s more than most in this conversation).

As for you stating we have less potent drugs than other areas of the nation, that’s a an illogical inference based on a general assumption of more crime in those areas. OKC is where a vast majority of Mexican cartel drug shipments come to be dispelled across the nation, and dealers are not just handing out stepped on product due to less competition here as opposed to other areas.

And I get most of my info from a CRNA, what the hell would she know about it, right?
 

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I was there and saw what happened and talked to the paramedic and ER docs afterwards
That’s why I asked you to tell me how the exposure happened. Explain how he came into contact, what his symptoms were, what the paramedic did (and was there only one on scene?) and what the ER doctor told you.

guy it happened to is a combat corpsman with three tours under his belt.
Because no soldier has ever served honorably under the weight of combat to return home and suffer from post traumatic stress.

For what it’s worth, I never said he had an anxiety attack. But I asked you to clarify with details from the situation and you’ve only deflected. Of course you don’t personally know me; if that is a qualifier for you to give your information out, why are you here commenting anyway?
So now I need to provide you an explanation for why I commenting here too? Again, I don't owe you an explanation for anything. That said I'll give you this. I was simply replying to your assertion that all these exposures aren't as dangerous as they are being reported to be. To be clear, I am not saying every contact with fentanyl comes with a significant risk, but it isn't something to be taken lightly like you imply either.

Regarding my friend who almost died after coming in contact with fentanyl. Yes, he experienced a LOT while he was deployed, but he is not suffering from PTS so please do us a favor and keep your assumptions to yourself.
 

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you bet nancy. airforce 1977-1978
That's nice... nancy air farce for 1 year. How do you only do one year? Did you get booted? Because even in the 70's, the shortest contract was 2 years and the draft ended in 1973 so I know you weren't drafted.
You must've got kicked out for medical maybe? Or you were a drunk or criminal maybe? What is it?

I retired BTW nancy. Not from the air farce either.
 

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