ATF Final Rule Redefines Word ‘Sale’ So that ‘Bartering’ for a Neighbor’s Gun Requires a NICS Check
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One only needs to look at the political prisoners still in jail without being charged with any crime for trespassing on January 6th. Our current leaders are violating Constitutional rights every day. They will have no problem gunning you down in front of your family if you challenge them. We are living in a dangerous period, I hope somehow it can turn itself around. Instead of buying a few boxes of ammo, send a donation to one of the gun rights groups. They are the only reason we still have any firearms at all.
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FFL revocation is up between 350% and 500% and is currently at a 17-year high. The amount of record keeping, cost, and hostile environment created by the ATF could mean that many will not get an FFL to sell their firearms, which could be part of Biden’s plan.
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The rule would make it so that anyone who rents a table at a gun show will be assumed to be in the business of selling firearms, meaning that private citizens will no longer be able to sell their firearms at any gun show. Also, if someone advertises their firearms for sale, they could be assumed to be in the business of selling firearms, which will shut down most private sales. The rule reads:
By requiring more people to get FFLs, it will prevent a lot of Americans from selling guns. The secondary market has been an excellent way for those less fortunate to acquire the means of protection. Those who choose to get an FFL will be subject to unannounced warrantless inspections. These inspections have been used to revoke gun shop’s FFLs under the Biden Administration’s zero-tolerance policy.
FFL revocation is up between 350% and 500% and is currently at a 17-year high. The amount of record keeping, cost, and hostile environment created by the ATF could mean that many will not get an FFL to sell their firearms, which could be part of Biden’s plan.
Where is the citation for your statement:
“ Also, if someone advertises their firearms for sale, they could be assumed to be in the business of selling firearms, which will shut down most private sales.”
Unless I’m mistaken, it looks like #1 from the proposed change doesn’t say that. It says advertising as part of a “business”
Which is why they need more red flag laws now to make citizens aware that their neighbor isn't just simply getting his pepa's old duck gun .He is actually trafficking firearms and probably holds to the old ways of thinking and beliefs. Think of how much effort the fed gov has put into demonizing what has always been just plain normal.So now to enforce the new wordings to a rule , they will make the incentives for alerting law enforcement about the crazy old dude next door. Defiance and not complying works as long as the folks next door are as dedicated as you.
I thought that was Texas?
Uh oh, looks like a lot of prices are going to have to come down to pre panic days if this is true.
the proposed rule provides that, absent reliable evidence to the contrary, a person is presumed to have the intent to “predominantly earn a profit”
the proposed rule provides that, absent reliable evidence to the contrary, a person is presumed to have the intent to “predominantly earn a profit”
IANAL, but I’m pretty sure that wouldn’t comport with federal rules of evidence?Uh oh, looks like a lot of prices are going to have to come down to pre panic days if this is true.
the proposed rule provides that, absent reliable evidence to the contrary, a person is presumed to have the intent to “predominantly earn a profit”
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