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YukonGlocker

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These are testable ideas. I have a fairly large dataset (nearly 1 million people) that should be able to provide some insight into these questions. I'll dig into it later.
 

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If 80%+ of the world is religious in some form or fashion and the general religious view is that homosexuality wrong, how can you not contend that it is possible a predisposition to those morals/values taught and ingrained into society as whole will not have an impact on the other percent of the population that is not religious?

Let’s use your numbers to your question. The 20% is the answer.

I don't think anyone is saying only religious people oppose it …

You want to argue my point or do you want to just argue?
 

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Funny, in all the verbiage R K9 has put out there, he has yet to address the issue head on of how gay marriage affects him. He has gone on and on about his butthurt over religion being pointed out as the primary opposition to gay marriage. This despite the fact that the vast, vast majority of opposition any of us, including R K9, has seen has been religious in nature.

I'm not condemning religion by any means. There has been a sizable minority among Christians that accept homosexuals as just another sinner. So opposition is not an affront to religion itself, only those who judge people that sin differently as somehow not deserving of the same rights as they enjoy.

It's comical watching R K9 dance around talking in circles trying to deflect his own bigotry. I'm certain the obtuse commentary will continue however along with the condescension and personal insults. Carry on though, it's entertaining, but it would be nice for R K9 to actually address the OP question about how gay marriage affects his life.
 

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See you can be funny...a little bit.

I wasn’t trying to be funny with you.

Now I if you would quit spitting hairs and arguing every stinking sentence, there might be hope for you.

When someone makes a statement on an open forum that is patently false and bordering either intentionally or unintentionally on religious bigotry, they should be expected to be called on such. You want to measure integrity by a hair length, go ahead.

And this thread is about gay marriage.....not just Lez be an marriage.

Correct. (Again) The thread is titled Gay Marriage and we are talking about same sex marriage that is not specific to any of the LGBT tribe since the ruling encompasses gay and lesbian marriage.

there's hope for this site.

Coming from someone who was recently banned, that is amusing. All the same, if you are the judge of my hope I will try to catch a seat on the 7:00pm to Dachau.
 

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Funny, in all the verbiage R K9 has put out there, he has yet to address the issue head on of how gay marriage affects him.

What is funnier or “funner than ___” as those with slight to moderate inbreeding down on the farm would say is that I you think I should agree with your mindless parroting of how gay marriage affects one. You want to build straw men and swing at windmills, take a cut but the effect is not the point. It is simply a tired deflection used years ago by the progressively challenged.

He has gone on and on about his butthurt over religion being pointed out as the primary opposition to gay marriage. This despite the fact that the vast, vast majority of opposition any of us, including R K9, has seen has been religious in nature.

You just made my point. “ …The vast, vast majority of opposition any of us, including R K9, has seen has been religious in nature.” The point that I was making was that that there are some who do not use religion to fuel their bias. No doubt that the majority of people who are of some faith do oppose same sex marriage for reasons due to their religious beliefs. Saying that the majority does means (if you are not too terribly slow at math) that there is a minority (as in some people) that do not base their opposition on religion. That was the point I was making. Now, I could say that I apologize to you for thinking that you are not as dumb as you post but the reality is that you probably didn’t even realize that you made my point.

So opposition is not an affront to religion itself, only those who judge people that sin differently as somehow not deserving of the same rights as they enjoy.

GMThunder contended (as a few others) that opposition is faith based. My point is that this is not entirely true. When someone is trying to frame an argument to be only about religion that is factually wrong it opens the door to religious bigotry.

It's comical watching R K9 dance around talking in circles trying to deflect his own bigotry.

If you wish to call me a “bigot” then you should be able to back that up. So why don’t you scroll back through the threads and share where I demonstrated any bigotry towards anyone that falls into the LGBT tribe? Will give you a ½ point credit if you say I am slightly bigoted towards whiny inbred farmers who give the old variety show “Hee Haw” a bad name. You want to call names? Man up and share where I demonstrated any bigotry to any LGBT person. Maybe you have an emoji that can express you taking a dump on this one?
 

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We both agree that not all people against it are religious. Where we differ is I believe that is is largely because of the dogma created through religious teachings. There are certainly examples where that is not the case, but we are talking about a very, very small minority here(a fraction of the 20%).

It feels like you are trying to stick on one simple point(it's not just religious people) to obfuscate further discussion(non-religious people have been influenced by the majority opinion so it is still somewhat religious anyways) or other points relevant to the broader conversation(how does it affect you personally).....
 

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http://rt.com/usa/271387-montana-polygamist-marriage-license/

Montana polygamist applies for marriage license, cites same-sex ruling

We just want to add legal legitimacy to an already happy, functional, strong, loving family,” he told KRTV. “We’re not even asking for acceptance. We’re just asking for tolerance. Let us live our lives together without fear.”

"My second wife Christine, who I'm not legally married to, she's put up with my crap for a lot of years. She deserves legitimacy," he added to AP.

think he deserves an answer,” Yellowstone County chief civil litigator Kevin Gillen told AP, before saying his review is finding that “the law simply doesn’t provide for that yet.”
 
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