GOP leaders: Anti-immigration stance hurts party

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The American Indians came from some place too


Lets not go there - different time - no governements etc

"Legal" immigration is an arbitrary construct from only the last couple hundred or so years that presupposes that the preceding 100 million years of human history didn't happen. The free migration of humans from one part of our planet to another more prosperous part is an in alienable right.

Don't believe everything your middle school history books tell you about the origins of humans in the Americas. Most of it is just plain wrong.
 

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I'm just saying that there wasn't a government with laws on immigration then.

so unless you want to start shipping everyone back to their original countries you have to use modern law. Which is "don't sneak into our country"
 

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Really, unless you're full blooded American Indian, who are any of you to complain about illegal immigration?

Yeah, good luck finding any real amount of those.

And as Bulboy said: American Indians migrated, too, and that argument is apples and oranges. You might also consider the treatment some tribes got when "migrating" into the claimed lands of other tribes. They sure didn't give them free medical care and SSI.
 

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Yeah, good luck finding any real amount of those.

And as Bulboy said: American Indians migrated, too. And you might check into the treatment some tribes got when "migrating" into the claimed lands of other tribes. They sure didn't give them free medical care and SSI.

They don't get SSI.
 

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Anti-immigration? See that's the problem with the left they like to spin thing like this, like abortion let's see "Pro-Choice" or "Pro Abortion". We equal rights for all and those outside the system aren't equal. As a mature country we can't afford to give everyone a benefits package that what's to come here.
You no longer starve if you can't make a living like the Industrial ago, only China can do that at present so that's not going to save are jobs.

We need people that can add and take personal responsibility. Don't mind those coming here for a better life at all they just need to play by the same rules both good and bad and be able to make a decent living without undercutting the lower middle case by being hired at stupid money that's being paid under the table.

Let's just say they don't get SSI legally. But the far left want's to do a blanket animosity so guess what those types are wanting to make sure they get it no matter how old or how long they've been here.
 

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Did you mean amnesty instead of animosity? Ha ha ha That was a Freudian slip if ever there was one!!!! :pms2::pms2:





Anti-immigration? See that's the problem with the left they like to spin thing like this, like abortion let's see "Pro-Choice" or "Pro Abortion". We equal rights for all and those outside the system aren't equal. As a mature country we can't afford to give everyone a benefits package that what's to come here.
You no longer starve if you can't make a living like the Industrial ago, only China can do that at present so that's not going to save are jobs.

We need people that can add and take personal responsibility. Don't mind those coming here for a better life at all they just need to play by the same rules both good and bad and be able to make a decent living without undercutting the lower middle case by being hired at stupid money that's being paid under the table.

Let's just say they don't get SSI legally. But the far left want's to do a blanket animosity so guess what those types are wanting to make sure they get it no matter how old or how long they've been here.
 

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Anti-immigration? See that's the problem with the left they like to spin thing like this, like abortion let's see "Pro-Choice" or "Pro Abortion". We equal rights for all and those outside the system aren't equal.

To be fair, using the term "pro-life" is equally unfair.

"Pro-abortion" isn't biased, it literally means you are for abortion.
 
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