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Paul looks now like he looked then. He looks like Mr. GreenJeans. He looks like a loveable cartoon character.
Nobody wanted to vote for him.
If you like that formula, stick with it.

Just out of morbid curiosity, how do y'all like the taste of that other formula that Bidoh and Zed are serving today?
 

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I don't mean to sound insulting. Seriously, I really do not. However, like I said above and like someone else said as well. EVERY person who voted Republican would have voted for Ron Paul, not one of those votes would have switched to Obama. The 1.1 million votes Johnson got, would have gone to Paul. If you read any moderate news, there were millions, and I mean quite a few million moderate Obama supporters who wanted to vote for Paul. They WANTED him to be the choice, but when he lost the primary, they felt Obama was the lesser of two evils. These aren't made up numbers, these aren't guesses, this is how the election would have panned out. Paul would have crushed Obama.

Secondly, no one who has disagreed about Paul has addressed the issue of the Constitution. He wants to follow it, nothing more, nothing less. If you do not support him, or you think he is crazy, please tell me the parts of the Constitution you do not enjoy. As I said before, you complain about the Liberals who want to take your guns, but you would accept a Conservative that wanted to take some other liberty? Sounds to me like a different side of the same sword.
 

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I don't mean to sound insulting. Seriously, I really do not. However, like I said above and like someone else said as well. EVERY person who voted Republican would have voted for Ron Paul, not one of those votes would have switched to Obama. The 1.1 million votes Johnson got, would have gone to Paul. If you read any moderate news, there were millions, and I mean quite a few million moderate Obama supporters who wanted to vote for Paul. They WANTED him to be the choice, but when he lost the primary, they felt Obama was the lesser of two evils. These aren't made up numbers, these aren't guesses, this is how the election would have panned out. Paul would have crushed Obama.

Secondly, no one who has disagreed about Paul has addressed the issue of the Constitution. He wants to follow it, nothing more, nothing less. If you do not support him, or you think he is crazy, please tell me the parts of the Constitution you do not enjoy. As I said before, you complain about the Liberals who want to take your guns, but you would accept a Conservative that wanted to take some other liberty? Sounds to me like a different side of the same sword.

I agree with you.
 

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It happens that I have read up on the Electoral College, but I can always learn more. I am a delegate in the Oklahoma GOP and served to elect our Electors in CD5, to support Rick Santorum. You're right about the billion thing too. Sometimes I just get started using the hot-pen method and don't proof read as I should.

As a Ron Paul supporter and a delegate to the Oklahoma State GOP Convention, I understand the corruption thing, first hand. Oklahomans elected Rick Santorum and after he dropped out, the delegates were free to support any candidate they liked. Throughout the Convention process, both the Ron Paul and Rick Santorum supporters experienced the wrath of what the $2,000,000 Mitt Romney gave Governor Fallin two days before the State Convention. Both of these candidates were completely shut out when Oklahoma and Tulsa Counties were stacked with several hundred Romney supporters who bypassed the lengthy delegation process and were credentialed after delegation registration was closed, to ensure that a Romney slate was going to the national convention. YouTube has hours of footage from the District and State conventions that show it all.

I'm with you that the nation has all but ended and the cesspool has more than begun. I believe we've already gone over the manufactured 'fiscal cliff' and all that's left is to wait for the blue-helmets. I am hopeful that most Oklahomans who value the Constitution will make a big fuss all the way.
Flybeech,


read up on electoral college. nobody's vote really does.

I got it on the billion thing, if your gonna rant, rant properly and accurately.

I didn't want Romney, but sure would prefer him to what we are going to have over the next 4 years. It is now about surviving and hoping that we can find a candidate that can overcome the entitlement mentallity and voter corruption.

My personal thought is that we have seen the end of a Nation and the beginning of a sess pool, and thats my optimistic view.

YMMV
 

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Fox News and the rest of the corporate media told us that Ron Paul was crazy and as always, we believed that only the guy that lost to the guy that lost to Obama in 2008 could save the country, even though Romney was exactly the same globalist puppet as Obama. Nobody really believed Romney could have won. Ron Paul was the only candidate that was a strict Constitutionalist who wanted to restore the Constitution and the rule of law.

We've lost most of our inalienable rights and the Second Amendment is the only one that still remains to some extent. We are now just waiting for the hammer to fall on the 2A.

Now that the selection is over and the "conservative" Romney was blown away by the socialist dictator, has anyone had second-thoughts about Ron Paul and the liberty movement he started?

Nope RP is still just another lying politician that would do most anything to get elected and who had even less chance of beating Obama.
 

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I don't mean to sound insulting. Seriously, I really do not. However, like I said above and like someone else said as well. EVERY person who voted Republican would have voted for Ron Paul, not one of those votes would have switched to Obama. The 1.1 million votes Johnson got, would have gone to Paul. If you read any moderate news, there were millions, and I mean quite a few million moderate Obama supporters who wanted to vote for Paul. They WANTED him to be the choice, but when he lost the primary, they felt Obama was the lesser of two evils. These aren't made up numbers, these aren't guesses, this is how the election would have panned out. Paul would have crushed Obama.

Secondly, no one who has disagreed about Paul has addressed the issue of the Constitution. He wants to follow it, nothing more, nothing less. If you do not support him, or you think he is crazy, please tell me the parts of the Constitution you do not enjoy. As I said before, you complain about the Liberals who want to take your guns, but you would accept a Conservative that wanted to take some other liberty? Sounds to me like a different side of the same sword.

Incorrect!!! If RP had been the nominee most Republicans would have stayed home. And yes he is a crazy old coot.
 

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Nope RP is still just another lying politician that would do most anything to get elected and who had even less chance of beating Obama.

I don't agree with this. He wasn't the "flip-flopper" that Romney was. He stood by what he said. Having convictions and sticking to them is a lot to ask of a politician nowadays and he has that.
 

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Incorrect!!! If RP had been the nominee most Republicans would have stayed home. And yes he is a crazy old coot.

I think this is also incorrect. Of course neither one of us can prove what would happen. However, most people are idiots. They say their republican or democrat and have no idea what that even means. Put whoever you want on either ticket and they will get votes just because they are republican. That's how Romney got votes. He had/has the same views as the current president, but still got republican votes because he was on the repub. ticket. Plain and simple. 90% of the people I know voted for Romney because he was the lesser of 2 evils. And that is the only reason. Now, I know quite a few dems that thought RP was a better choice than both.
 

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I don't agree with this. He wasn't the "flip-flopper" that Romney was. He stood by what he said. Having convictions and sticking to them is a lot to ask of a politician nowadays and he has that.

He was just a lying POS politician just like all the others, he just has a cult following same as Obama. It is just a whole lot smaller.

I think this is also incorrect. Of course neither one of us can prove what would happen. However, most people are idiots. They say their republican or democrat and have no idea what that even means. Put whoever you want on either ticket and they will get votes just because they are republican. That's how Romney got votes. He had/has the same views as the current president, but still got republican votes because he was on the repub. ticket. Plain and simple. 90% of the people I know voted for Romney because he was the lesser of 2 evils. And that is the only reason. Now, I know quite a few dems that thought RP was a better choice than both.

Wrong. He would have gotten some votes for those reasons but all the informed voters would have stayed home and the media would have had an even bigger field day with him then they did Romney. He would have been lucky to get 40% of the vote. Romney was not even close to being my top pick and yes I voted for him as the lesser of two evils, but I am not even sure I could have voted for RP as that. I probably would have just stayed home and I know many others that would have too. Kind of like the many RP supporters did.
 

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Rick, there is no arguing with a man who refuses to use logic, so I won't. Calling him a "crazy old coot" does not make it true. And saying he still would have lost, doesn't make that true either. You are wrong, of that there is truly no doubt, but the fact is, it really does not matter. People like you are part of the problem with this country, and unfortunately, your numbers are growing. The idea that Republicans would have stayed home is so laughable that... Well, I don't have any more words than that. It is beyond comical.

Oh, and you still refuse to address the Constitution. Clearly, there are parts you don't like. Would you mind sharing what those are?
Incorrect!!! If RP had been the nominee most Republicans would have stayed home. And yes he is a crazy old coot.
 

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