Hydroponics, anyone? Interesting raid on home of "growers"

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This will probably result in a bit of a stink:

http://news.yahoo.com/kansas-couple-indoor-gardening-prompted-pot-raid-182449463.html

It should.

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LEAWOOD, Kan. (AP) - Two former CIA employees whose Kansas home was fruitlessly searched for marijuana during a two-state drug sweep claim they were illegally targeted, possibly because they had bought indoor growing supplies to raise vegetables.

Adlynn and Robert Harte sued this week to get more information about why sheriff's deputies searched their home in the upscale Kansas City suburb of Leawood last April 20 as part of Operation Constant Gardener - a sweep conducted by agencies in Kansas and Missouri that netted marijuana plants, processed marijuana, guns, growing paraphernalia and cash from several other locations.

April 20 long has been used by marijuana enthusiasts to celebrate the illegal drug and more recently by law enforcement for raids and crackdowns. But the Hartes' attorney, Cheryl Pilate, said she suspects the couple's 1,825-square-foot split level was targeted because they had bought hydroponic equipment to grow a small number of tomatoes and squash plants in their basement.

"With little or no other evidence of any illegal activity, law enforcement officers make the assumption that shoppers at the store are potential marijuana growers, even though the stores are most commonly frequented by backyard gardeners who grow organically or start seedlings indoors," the couple's lawsuit says.

The couple filed the suit this week under the Kansas Open Records Act after Johnson County and Leawood denied their initial records requests, with Leawood saying it had no relevant records. The Hartes say the public has an interest in knowing whether the sheriff's department's participation in the raids was "based on a well-founded belief of marijuana use and cultivation at the targeted addresses, or whether the raids primarily served a publicity purpose."

"If this can happen to us and we are educated and have reasonable resources, how does somebody who maybe hasn't led a perfect life supposed to be free in this country?" Adlynn Harte said in an interview Friday.

The suit filed in Johnson County District Court said the couple and their two children - a 7-year-old daughter and 13-year-old son - were "shocked and frightened" when deputies armed with assault rifles and wearing bulletproof vests pounded on the door of their home around 7:30 a.m. last April 20.

"It was just like on the cops TV shows," Robert Harte told The Associated Press. "It was like 'Zero Dark Thirty' ready to storm the compound."

During the sweep, the court filing said, the Hartes were told they had been under surveillance for months, but the couple "know of no basis for conducting such surveillance nor do they believe such surveillance would have produced any facts supporting the issuance of a search warrant."

Harte said he built the hydroponic garden with his son a couple of years ago. He said they didn't use the powerful light bulbs that are sometimes used to grow marijuana and that the family's electricity usage didn't change dramatically. Changes in utility usage can sometimes lead authorities to such operations.

When law enforcement arrived, the family had just six plants - three tomato plants, one melon plant and two butternut squash plants - growing in the basement, Harte said.

The suit also said deputies "made rude comments" and implied their son was using marijuana. A drug-sniffing dog was brought in to help, but deputies ultimately left after providing a receipt stating, "No items taken."

Pilate said no one in the Harte family uses illegal drugs and no charges were filed. The lawsuit noted Adlynn Harte, who works for a financial planning firm, and Robert Harte, who cares for the couple's children, each were required to pass rigorous background checks for their previous jobs working for the CIA in Washington, D.C. Pilate said she couldn't provide any other details about their CIA employment.

Pilate said any details gleaned from the open records suit could be used in a future federal civil rights lawsuit.

"You can't go into people's homes and conduct searches without probable cause," Pilate said.

Leawood City Administrator Scott Lambers said Friday that he couldn't comment on pending litigation. The sheriff's office also had no comment.

"Obviously with an ongoing lawsuit we are not able to talk about any details of it until it's been played out in court," said Johnson County Deputy Tom Erickson.
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Yeah kinda like not being able to buy sinus medicine with ephedrine. Obviously you're meth cook if you buy it.

And kinda not like that. I have bought sudafed, and of course waited in line at the pharmacy, shown ID, and signed for it several times over the years. No one I know has been raided, though those who buy it all over the place do get targeted.

Incidentally, OK was the first state to put this law into effect.

These "growers" bought uncontrolled items in modest quantity. I am wondering if it was a heavy handed joke by some old coworker, considering their employment history . . .
 

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A long time back I was offered a very large older computer. By large, I mean this thing took 2500W just for the fans. Probably a good thing I didn't take it, I'd probably end up like those ex-spooks.
 

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And kinda not like that. I have bought sudafed, and of course waited in line at the pharmacy, shown ID, and signed for it several times over the years. No one I know has been raided, though those who buy it all over the place do get targeted.

Incidentally, OK was the first state to put this law into effect.

These "growers" bought uncontrolled items in modest quantity. I am wondering if it was a heavy handed joke by some old coworker, considering their employment history . . .

No you just rolled up into a ball and accepted being treated like a criminal for buying a decongestant. Because people use something in a manner it was not intended to be used we just willingly gave up and rolled and played dead. And yes I do know people that have been raided because they bought as much pseudoephedrine as they could every month and the pharmacist sicced the cops on them even though were not trying to exceed the legal purchase limit. Those stories don't make the news because they aren't ex cia employees, they didn't have connections to make a big deal of it, oh yeah the media was all gung ho about doing something to combat the meth problem. It's the price of saving us from ourselves.

Maybe people with tattoo's and piercings are second class citizens in someones book and they could only be doing something criminal when they bought decongestant, and the typical establishment stereotypes them. I told walgreen's to go get ****ed last night I was in line for 20 minutes with 2 people in front of me, by the time they got there thumbs out of their bungholes it was 5 after 10 and I couldn't buy Claritin-D because it's their company policy not to sell any pseudoephedrine products after 10pm.
 

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Well, we do have to do something to solve the meth problem.

Sometimes honest people have to pay the price for those that are dishonest. It sucks, but thats life.

I'd like to see some stats from somebody that shows how meth crimes have risen over the years including robbery's etc. so they can fund their addiction.

Somebody out there make me feel good about having no restrictions on the ingredients for meth.
 

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Makes me sick. The country is broke yet we waste resources like this. Even if they were growing MJ it would have been a poor use of resources.

Our government literally makes me sick. Its so sad that people accept this sort of action now. This is not acceptable in the so called Land of the Free.
 

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Ok. make me warm and fuzzy about being a meth user, and our 'rights to drugs" being taken away.

Hell a little "smoke" is ok and has been aproved by everybody that uses it. Why not meth ingrediants?

Are we short changing the users?
 

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I got an ingenious idea quit trying to protect us from ourselves an addicts going to get it one way or another, meth labs are on the rise again this time shake and bake operations where they just throw the hazardous by products out the car window for kids to find lying next to the sidewalk. Decriminalize it, remove the illegal operations from the equation make some tax money from it and treat the addicts. Get it out in the open so people can get help without the fear of being ostracized for it. I know you have some personal experience with meth Dennis, seen you post about it before, I have a much different intimate perspective and that's as far as I'll go relating my experience, but addicts don't want to get help even when they hit rock bottom because they're treated like scum, they can't tell their story even after being clean for 20+ years without being looked at like a second class citizen. Or someone who can never be trusted. Must meth addicts will tell you the same thing no matter how long they've been off dope they still think about it.
 

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