If you were smart enough to understand my post I said just that. Buying the brand doesn't make it better. Either buying the rifle already with upgraded parts or buying a plane jane and updating yourself, IT DOES NOT MATTER. The brand of the AR doesn't have anything to do with it. I can make an Olympic Arms with upgrades just as acurate and functional as a Wilsons Combat or Knight Armament SR-15.
How much money do you save by buying an Oly Arms 16" carbine and then replacing everything with 'quality' parts to make it into a Wilson or Kinghts?
This is not about money it's about which brand is the best basicaly. But you can save a lot of money by doing the upgrades yourself. You can put a Delton together for about $600. Spend $1,000 on upgrades and still be at half the price of an KA SR-15.
A $600 delton with a $1000 in upgrades is as good as a knights?
Also I can't seem to find a Knights SR-15 for $3200 anywhere.
Also I can't seem to find a Knights SR-15 for $3200 anywhere.
Sure, if you replace the receiver extension, buffer & spring, lower parts kit, bolt carrier group, charging handle, barrel assembly and front sight base. Then what you're left with is a mutt built on a poorly regarded receiver that will not be worth the sum total of the parts cost on the resale market. OR, you could buy the quality rifle already assembled and have a significantly higher residual value than the mutt you just spent a lot of time putting together. To put it bluntly, you can dress a pig in a ballerina costume and call it a ballerina, but it still ain't gonna get the part in a school production, much less the NYC Ballet.
I'm just going on parts (mostly uppers) I've priced out recently from PSA, BCM, LMT and Noveske and Noveske is always significantly more. Never priced a basic Noveske for sure, and I've seen that BCM go for nearly $100 less recently on slickguns.
Surely we can agree that ~$500 is ~50% more than the BCM and that's quite a step up than "a bit" which is my whole point. Rather it is to me anyways..... don't get me wrong... I wish it were true.
I understand the logic, but don't agree with it. For one thing it's not about closer or tighter tolerances, it's about correct tolerances.
It's also not about the sum collection of parts...it's about the quality control, testing, and standing behind the product.
A $600 Del-ton with $1000 worth of "upgrades" is not better or even the same as a $1600 Noveske. The modified Del-ton has not gone through testing, does not meet any specs whatsover because it is a collection of parts from various manufacturers with no QC or testing prior to assembly, and when/if it goes tits up, no one company is going to stand behind the build...since you bubba'd it up yourself.
That's not to say building something yourself is bad or makes your AR suck (I've got a few kitchen table built ARs)...but it sure doesn't make it the same as a complete rifle spec'd, tested, and built by a quality manufacturer who stands behind their rifles. Ask guys like Pat Rogers of EAG tactical, he sees hundreds/thousands of guns a year running 100s of thousands of rounds of ammo...the guns that puke are not the guns built by Noveske, Colt and BCM.
I'm just going on parts (mostly uppers) I've priced out recently from PSA, BCM, LMT and Noveske and Noveske is always significantly more. Never priced a basic Noveske for sure, and I've seen that BCM go for nearly $100 less recently on slickguns.
Surely we can agree that ~$500 is ~50% more than the BCM and that's quite a step up than "a bit" which is my whole point. Rather it is to me anyways..... don't get me wrong... I wish it were true.
If you price their barrel assemblies, most of the extra cost is there unless you're also looking at their Gen 2 Flared Forged Lowers or Vltor MUR uppers. Noveske barrels are renowned for both accuracy and lifespan. Not everyone needs that level of barrel quality.
I didn't see it made economical since. Because you are not going to be able to ever get your money out of a cheaper priced brand. But the fact is it can be just as good. If you shop around you can find good deals that make economical since. Usualy people hard up for money make good deals. I got a KA SR-25 308 for $2500 one time.
Not completely true anymore.
Colt Competition rifle. 18" fluted rifle gas 1x8 stainless barrel, .223 Wylde chamber. I'd pretty much call it race ready too.
http://coltcompetitionrifle.com/colt-pro-crp-18/
Not that that changes which one I'd buy, just sayin'.
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