Navy will soon have a "Skipper" opening..

[emapples]

Neither ship in the incident reported by the OP and the other party take a LOOOOOONG time to turn. BUT, was not radar enabled?
My buddy's offshore boat in Texas has radar. There is not a ship on the water that we couldn't see in that crowded shipping lane.
Surely the Navy has the same or better?

I just heard that this collusion occurred 56 N miles off the coast , and I agree how the hell did someone not see,the incoming threat? Warning shots ?

Someone is getting demoted if not court marshaled .

 

[deerwhacker444]

A point of clarification, they did not drive into anything, they got driven into.

The nautical "rules of the road" define stand-on and give way vessels based on their relative positions to each other. In this case the "hitter", the merchant ship, was the stand-on vessel, the destroyer, "hit-ee", the give way. So, the destroyer was obliged to keep out of the way of the merchant. An effort in which they were obviously unsuccessful. The merchant would be obliged to maintain course and speed, so as to not compound potential problems with the give way vessels ability to in fact, "give way".

Now, since the "hit-ee"operate 4 LM2500 gas turbines with a total of a bit over 100K shaft horse power they can generally get away with things most ships could not in terms of maneuvering. Talking huge rooster tails when they nail it at 12 knots; or the ability to change direction from moving forward to moving in reverse in less than a ships length from speed, "assuming" the watch was paying attention, which clearly they were not.

Every mishap has an element of chance, a kind of unique alignment of holes in swiss cheese if you will, that can be disrupted by a huge number of interventions both large and small, in this case those possible interventions did not occur.

Help at all?

yeah, thanks for the explanation.

 

[emapples]

A point of clarification, they did not drive into anything, they got driven into.

The nautical "rules of the road" define stand-on and give way vessels based on their relative positions to each other. In this case the "hitter", the merchant ship, was the stand-on vessel, the destroyer, "hit-ee", the give way. So, the destroyer was obliged to keep out of the way of the merchant. An effort in which they were obviously unsuccessful. The merchant would be obliged to maintain course and speed, so as to not compound potential problems with the give way vessels ability to in fact, "give way".

Now, since the "hit-ee"operate 4 LM2500 gas turbines with a total of a bit over 100K shaft horse power they can generally get away with things most ships could not in terms of maneuvering. Talking huge rooster tails when they nail it at 12 knots; or the ability to change direction from moving forward to moving in reverse in less than a ships length from speed, "assuming" the watch was paying attention, which clearly they were not.

Every mishap has an element of chance, a kind of unique alignment of holes in swiss cheese if you will, that can be disrupted by a huge number of interventions both large and small, in this case those possible interventions did not occur.

Help at all?

Thank you, basil husband someone made a 50 million dollar error

 

[Dave70968]

A little paint and she'll buff right out.

I was on a guided missile cruiser in the Med and we ran into a Greek destroyer. Dented our bow but damn near cut the destroyer in half.
How does this happen? Watch the movie The Bedford Incident.
Captain: "if he fires one I'll fire one".
Fire Control Tech: "FIRE ONE"

We were running blackout in the Gulf and damn near got t-boned by a Greek freighter. Hailing them didn't work and we ultimately lit them up with a crazy powerful search light we had on our gun platform. It was like we hit their bridge with the sun itself. They turned that ship most ricky tick! LOL

Sounds like Greeks and boats are like Kennedys and...any mode of transportation.

 

[dennishoddy]

The 7 missing sailors have been found in flooded compartments aboard the ship. According to news reports, the Navy delayed releasing that information until the family's had been notified.
Sad results. RIP

 

[D. Hargrove]

This is certainly very sad for more than a few folks. RIP Sailors.

 

[Chief Sapulpa]

Sounds like Greeks and boats are like Kennedys and...any mode of transportation.

...and Jacqueline married two of them; a Kennedy and one that was in shipping (Onassis).

 

[O4L]

Unbelievable!

There should be a boatload of people fired over this one! [emoji3]