First off, I appreciate the measured response. In most cases when I have talked to people there's no distinction between the pulsation of cardiac tissue through to the formation of an actual heart, so that's my fault for making a bad assumption here and also my fault for not clarifying what I meant better. That difference of a couple weeks in formation seems to be a big point in the current round of debate on this topic as states enact different guidelines and the concept of fetal heartbeat has become a term that gets tossed around a lot.I lost an unborn child that had a beating heart at 8 weeks and it was gone at 12. What I am stating is a non-debatable, medical fact. Children have heartbeats in the womb; very early on. I respect your opinon as a fellow brother on this board, but just not sure what you mean that I should look into whether abortion stops a beating heart more? You can still have an opinion that it is a personal choice, but it is someone else's heart being stopped there.