I need some advice from you high rollers out there. I'm looking into buying a Rolex Submariner no date (not a bubble fan) or a Sea Dweller. I'd like to buy one that's new, but are there any advantages buying a used watch over a new watch? All things being cheaper on the webz, do you have any recommendations for online dealers?
I agree. Charlie has decent prices, sometimes his online prices are a little cheaper than "in store" prices. Whatever you do, you have to trust the seller. You don't buy the watch you buy the seller. There are a million really good fakes. Do some research on Time Zone. The newer subs with the ceramic bezels are sweet. Good luck!
If you can find a used authentic one you can save about 50-75%. Just make sure you take it to a legit watchmaker and have them open the case and verify that it's real. A used one will have some external wear and light scratches from wear, but a competent jeweler can buff it out and it will look new. The crystals are very scratch resistant and expensive so I might pass on one with a scratched one. I got my mid-2000s Oyster Perpetual used off of an individual for $1500 which is 60-70% off. The crystal was perfect and I buffed out the stainless. It looks new. If I was rich I'd just buy a new one though.
Most automatics sweep, and a good knock off will be automatic, although a genuine Rolex sweeps much smoother.
Unless it's an OysterQuartz
To OP; Used market lags behind retail but they are always appreciating. I've never sold a Rolex for less than I paid (Generally more) and they are timeless in the sport series (I currently have a Sub and a GMT Pepsi). I'm a fan.
It depends on what you call smooth continuous motion. They did make a few models in the 70s that were a quartz movement and the had moved once per second. These were the Ouster Quartz watches and are fairly rare. The others appear to be smooth, but are actually 5-6 or 8 moves or beats per second. I believe all of the models produced in the last 15 years or so are 8 bps or 28,880 beats per hour. At first glance they appear to be smooth, but if you look carefully it is not.
Cheap fakes are not try mechanical watches. But there are some pretty nice fake mechanicals out there.
There is an AH in most any thread. I might as well be one here:
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Wow............where do I start.
New: Retail....full price. Rolex doesn't allow AD...which stands for Authorized Dealers to discount. Plus if it's local, sales tax. Benefit....you know what you have(real) and have an AD that with any problems will send it to Rolex(usually Dallas...closest) or if they have an AUTHORIZED in-house watchmaker/ repair person it will be taken care of.
Grey Market: Places like Jomas or other online sites that are NOT an AD. What happens here..........because they're not authorized.........they CANNOT have the factory card/warranty card with the box and watch. These places sell real Rolex but offer their warrany. So any problems....and...you don't have the warranty card you can't go to an AD or send it to Rolex, Omega, Ulysse Nardin, Patek, Vacheron, Jager-LeCoultre.................etc. You send it back to whom you bought it from and HOPE they know what the f*ck they're doing with your watch.
I have heard that some of these places buy quantity watches and a few might be defective.........who knows???
Semi-Grey Market: There are guys that buy overstock, not sold items, slow moving items....etc...from AD dealers. They get ALL the paperwork from the dealer...including the warranty card...and when you buy the watch........
No sales tax.
The warranty card can be put in you name.
The Jeweler's name from who he obtained from is the dealer......that will look like....who you purchased it from. Sooooooo, send it back to the factory with the card or paperwork...no problem.
http://davidsw.com/
Call him and tell him what your looking for........he scours the Asian and other markets from AD .......and with the "New" stuff has factory cards with the watch that can be put in your name.
Here is a site I highly recommend:
http://www.rolexforums.com/...........join up and ask a TON of questions.
DO NOT get in any hurry.....they make plenty of them.
Take care of this watch and over the years you can trade it in or sell it at a nice price.
Rolex is like Colt..........................they may not be the best........BUT EVERYONE HAS HEARD OF THEM!!!!!
***Please take care of your new watch*** I had several friends in Galveston and Houston that didn't treat their watches well...mostly Rolex...and the luminescent turned a banana yellow from sun damage and the dial and bezel had a slight fade from sun damage.....golfing, fishing out in the Gulf, playing golf...etc.
If you can....go to B.C. Clarks.............downtown....talk to Joe( he looks like one of the newscaster Olge brothers) or Penn Square Gerald, Bruce, John Pinkerton....and ask,ask, and ask.
By the way, B.C. Clark's is having a watch sale, I and a friend will be at both tomorrow.....Penn and North Park. My buddy thinks I know a little more than he does about watches and wants my advice....he's looking at an Omega "Moon Watch" Chronometer.
I'll get off my rant and rave............hoped I helped...........If I misspelled, am incorrect, or any other problem I stand corrected. It's been a loooooooooong week and I've already had a few (5-6) Schlitz, 2 Sazerac, and 1 Old Fashioned................cheers
If I can be of assistance..........all you have to do is ask!!!
New: Retail....full price. Rolex doesn't allow AD...which stands for Authorized Dealers to discount. Plus if it's local, sales tax. Benefit....you know what you have(real) and have an AD that with any problems will send it to Rolex(usually Dallas...closest) or if they have an AUTHORIZED in-house watchmaker/ repair person it will be taken care of.
Grey Market: Places like Jomas or other online sites that are NOT an AD. What happens here..........because they're not authorized.........they CANNOT have the factory card/warranty card with the box and watch. These places sell real Rolex but offer their warrany. So any problems....and...you don't have the warranty card you can't go to an AD or send it to Rolex, Omega, Ulysse Nardin, Patek, Vacheron, Jager-LeCoultre.................etc. You send it back to whom you bought it from and HOPE they know what the f*ck they're doing with your watch.
I have heard that some of these places buy quantity watches and a few might be defective.........who knows???
Semi-Grey Market: There are guys that buy overstock, not sold items, slow moving items....etc...from AD dealers. They get ALL the paperwork from the dealer...including the warranty card...and when you buy the watch........
No sales tax.
The warranty card can be put in you name.
The Jeweler's name from who he obtained from is the dealer......that will look like....who you purchased it from. Sooooooo, send it back to the factory with the card or paperwork...no problem.
http://davidsw.com/
Call him and tell him what your looking for........he scours the Asian and other markets from AD .......and with the "New" stuff has factory cards with the watch that can be put in your name.
Here is a site I highly recommend:
http://www.rolexforums.com/...........join up and ask a TON of questions.
DO NOT get in any hurry.....they make plenty of them.
Take care of this watch and over the years you can trade it in or sell it at a nice price.
Rolex is like Colt..........................they may not be the best........BUT EVERYONE HAS HEARD OF THEM!!!!!
***Please take care of your new watch*** I had several friends in Galveston and Houston that didn't treat their watches well...mostly Rolex...and the luminescent turned a banana yellow from sun damage and the dial and bezel had a slight fade from sun damage.....golfing, fishing out in the Gulf, playing golf...etc.
If you can....go to B.C. Clarks.............downtown....talk to Joe( he looks like one of the newscaster Olge brothers) or Penn Square Gerald, Bruce, John Pinkerton....and ask,ask, and ask.
By the way, B.C. Clark's is having a watch sale, I and a friend will be at both tomorrow.....Penn and North Park. My buddy thinks I know a little more than he does about watches and wants my advice....he's looking at an Omega "Moon Watch" Chronometer.
I'll get off my rant and rave............hoped I helped...........If I misspelled, am incorrect, or any other problem I stand corrected. It's been a loooooooooong week and I've already had a few (5-6) Schlitz, 2 Sazerac, and 1 Old Fashioned................cheers
If I can be of assistance..........all you have to do is ask!!!
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