So this stat proves that cops are better shots than at least 581 people out there?!?!!? 
What?? Too soon??
What?? Too soon??
581 people have been shot and killed by police so far in 2017
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Wasn't trying to argue the point of the OP......was responding to the phrase "lawful command".
So this stat proves that cops are better shots than at least 581 people out there?!?!!?
What?? Too soon??
lol Id like to see a stat for shots fired vs people killed. Id guess that average cops are terrible shots.
Let me ask you this. If the traffic light you stopped for turns green and you have the lawful right of way, but you see a vehicle in the cross traffic lane approaching at a high rate of speed, do you enter the intersection anyway because you have the right of way? After all, they're in the wrong and you're in the right if they enter the intersection while disobeying a red light, right?
Simply put, you can be right, but also dead. So would you rather be dead right or alive and infringed upon? When a dog growls at me, I don't assume he won't bite me because I'm not hurting him and when a cop points a gun at me (only ever in training so far), I don't assume he won't shoot me because I haven't broken the law. I comply with the orders and we'll sort it out either in his CO's office or court as necessary.
Feel free to do otherwise, but don't say you weren't forewarned.
This article is from 2015 but it compares the numbers of US Police killings vs those of other countries. Id think any reasonable person could admit there is a problem here that needs to be addressed. Which is the entire point of my OP
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/09/the-counted-police-killings-us-vs-other-countries
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/09/the-counted-police-killings-us-vs-other-countries
My first response is to support all LEO. I understand that of the thousands currently serving around the country there will be a small percentage that are totally unworthy of that support.
So some would say, disarm the police, or even better, just eliminate them altogether!
So some would say, disarm the police, or even better, just eliminate them altogether!
And what if the "problem" is that America has the 2nd Amendment right to keep and bear arms, and none of the other countries compared against us do?
"Let me ask you this. If the traffic light you stopped for turns green and you have the lawful right of way, but you see a vehicle in the cross traffic lane approaching at a high rate of speed, do you enter the intersection anyway because you have the right of way? After all, they're in the wrong and you're in the right if they enter the intersection while disobeying a red light, right?
Simply put, you can be right, but also dead. So would you rather be dead right or alive and infringed upon? When a dog growls at me, I don't assume he won't bite me because I'm not hurting him and when a cop points a gun at me (only ever in training so far), I don't assume he won't shoot me because I haven't broken the law. I comply with the orders and we'll sort it out either in his CO's office or court as necessary."
Are you inferring that if a police officer gives an unlawful command that you do not obey because it violates your civil rights they will resort to shooting you? I don't understand....all I was asking was what do you do if you are given an unlawful order by a police officer? I watch "Live PD" and it seems they violate the rights of almost everyone they stop. They ask for passenger ID. That is against the law. They will not tell people what they are pulled over for UNTIL they have their ID, that too, is against the law.
Do you give up your civil rights because the police might become violent?
Simply put, you can be right, but also dead. So would you rather be dead right or alive and infringed upon? When a dog growls at me, I don't assume he won't bite me because I'm not hurting him and when a cop points a gun at me (only ever in training so far), I don't assume he won't shoot me because I haven't broken the law. I comply with the orders and we'll sort it out either in his CO's office or court as necessary."
Are you inferring that if a police officer gives an unlawful command that you do not obey because it violates your civil rights they will resort to shooting you? I don't understand....all I was asking was what do you do if you are given an unlawful order by a police officer? I watch "Live PD" and it seems they violate the rights of almost everyone they stop. They ask for passenger ID. That is against the law. They will not tell people what they are pulled over for UNTIL they have their ID, that too, is against the law.
Do you give up your civil rights because the police might become violent?
If the 2nd Amendment was the root of problem I think there would be a lot more that 27 police deaths by shooting this year. Do you really think most of the 581 civilians killed were armed?
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