Lots of good info. Yeah looking for probably a 2016 suburban, Escalade esv or expedition el. We like 3 rows of seats and storage space behind 3rd row. Ran to look at two a dealer had listed online and couldn't find em when I got there. A salesman caught me before I could sneak back off the lot and said the 2 vehicles I'd been looking for had been gone for a while. Yes, I could've called first but I like the element of surprise when dealing with sneaky folks. This way I learned the dealer baits folks with vehicles they don't have. Lol. I enjoy the hunt anyhow. It's the rest of it that ain't fun. Thanks for yalls input. I thought maybe I could do business with someone here.