Is there anyone here stupid enough to do this?

[Buddhaman]

We're fairly conservative with our A/C use. It's set for 78 in the summer and we only use fans in the rooms we're in (mainly the living room). Feels fine to me when you come in from 97* and the A/C kills the humidity so it feels ALOT cooler. Whoever implemented this program has no brain or had a brain and then got to a level they didn't use it and forgot all the things they learned about thermodynamics and thermal systems.

 

[david04]

Seems like the energy required to re-cool the supposed 2 degrees is going to be much greater than the energy required to maintain the original temp. So the peak energy savings only comes at the end of peak hours, from those who cycled off during peak and cycled back on during off-peak.

Am I crazy or did no one at PSO take Thermodynamics I?

This is exactly what they want. They like it when we use lots of power. But, they would like it to be spread out evenly over the whole day. When everybody has their AC on at 5:20 PM when they get home it sets a high peak demand usage, which causes them to either A.) purchase power which is expensive or B.) Install additional generating capacity, which is a large capital expense which hurts their return-on-investment. This is really not new.

 

[Nraman]

B.) Install additional generating capacity, which is a large capital expense which hurts their return-on-investment. This is really not new.

If they don't have enough capacity they need to build more and stop this dangerous nonsense. We must not let them turn the clock back. A modern society requires plentiful electricity, these schemes are unacceptable. The next step will be rolling blackouts and we will be asked to cooperate because they just don't have the capacity and we need to understand, etc.
Screw them, I don't understand nothing, they need to understand that they need to do what it takes to provide us with the energy we need. This is how it works with the socialists, you have to sacrifice for the common good as defined by the rich.

 

[Robert871]

the upper flights of multistory houses will also heat up at an accelerated rate. It is not secret that the american infrastructure is pure crap, we are relying and pushing systems way beyond what they are capable of sustaining; systems which were designed and built on a whim a long time ago, and thrown together as need and demand came arise. excellent examples of this are electricity. not to mention the mass power outages in ice storms, even just as of this last two weeks, at the peak hours of the day when its hot, our big screen tv hisses and the picture gets fuzzy because pso cannot sustain the load demand that the tv was built for. then look at our roads, by the time they finish a full expansion of a roadway it typically is ready to be expanded again, and by the time they finish repairing a roadway, the other end of the same roadway is jacked up again, i blame the shotty cheap work that wins the lowest bid for a job, but the fact is we never looked to the possible future demand. even in the stuff that should be easy to predict, we fail. new elementary school went in a few years back out here, the year it opened they had to bring in those prefab trailers for extra class space, and we are talking bringing trailer houses to add classrooms to a BRAND NEW JUST COMPLETED school!.

am i going to let them touch our a/c? HELL NO!

if you are going to provide a service, you damn well better be ready to meet the demand that you take on. this is not our problem its the energy provider. just because they are in such a minority that we literally have no alternative than generators; does not mean that we should hold them to different standards than anyone else that offers and accepts a paid agreement for service, when they fail to provide said service. just because they are the only service around, they get to decide when we get to power our a/c and when we do not? ********!

 

[Nraman]

B.) Install additional generating capacity, which is a large capital expense which hurts their return-on-investment. This is really not new.

If they don't have enough capacity they need to build more and stop this dangerous nonsense. We must not let them turn the clock back. A modern society requires plentiful electricity, these schemes are unacceptable. The next step will be rolling blackouts and we will be asked to cooperate because they just don't have the capacity and we need to understand, etc.
Screw them, I don't understand nothing, they need to understand that they need to do what it takes to provide us with the energy we need. This is how it works with the socialists, you have to sacrifice for the common good as defined by them.

 

[Shadowrider]

I had one of thos PEAKS devices back in the '80s. Saved me a good chunk on my bill between the credit and the actual time the little wheel wasn't running. But today I would say Oh

We didn't really have to break out the tinfoil hats much back then. But today is a whole nuther matter.

 

[mapcon1941]

My parents had this program in Florida. The utility would usually kill the A/C and pool pump from about 6:00 pm to 9:00 pm everyday it was hot and humid in the summer. Which, in Florida is really everyday from 6/1 to 9/1. When the A/C would kick back on, it would run almost continuously til morning. It is not just the temp, but removing the humidity also. I would say it was definitely not worth the little savings off the bill to have.

 

[emapples]

I got a flyer in the mail for this, it was promptly trashed. I think they offered a 25 dollar credit or something like that. To make it more attractive to those who are not quite completely stupid and are on the fence considering such a device.

 

[Robert871]

I got a flyer in the mail for this, it was promptly trashed. I think they offered a 25 dollar credit or something like that. To make it more attractive to those who are not quite completely stupid and are on the fence considering such a device.

yeah, it was on the news 8 i think it was, tonight. they did not say much, but the media kind of sounded like it was spinning it as a promotion to get a 25 dollar credit. . . . .

someone else said in regards to a home in florida having this device, that the ac would run till morning after being turned back on, just to cool the house back down. thats way way more than a 1-2 degree difference, and thus our point. and i may be wrong but does it not require less energy to maintain a constant temperature vs letting a house heat for 6 hours and then trying to rapidly re cool it back down?

i pull this 6 hours because the news broadcast on the thing said that pso peak hours are typically 1pm-7pm. long time to go without a/c on a hot day is what i am thinking.

still sticking to my ground, this is not our problem, if they cannot keep up with demand they should increase their capabilities, or admit that they took on more business than they can handle and let us figure a capitalistic approach to solving the issue, one that ends with us having the energy we need and want, when we need and want it.

 

[Isha's Pa Pa]

That was my second thought.... would the extra cycling of the compressor shorten its life?

The compresor in your car cycles on and off the whole time you are driving it
I dont think it would hurt it .