Obama just wants to contain ISIS...

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71buickfreak

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So he sends in air strikes, but not to kill the genocidal maniacs, just to contain them and keep them where they are to do what they want. WTF? The phrase "Poop or get off the pot" comes to mind. You don't send air strikes to contain the enemy, you eradicate them Anything else is just a waste of time.

Normally, I would say it isn't our business, BUT he caused this by pulling out cold turkey.

I wish Obama's dad pulled out.



WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama's new military strategy in Iraq amounts to trying to contain, not destroy, the Islamic militant group that now controls much of the country's northern region. That leaves open the questions of how deeply the U.S. will be drawn into the sectarian conflict, and whether airstrikes alone can stop the militants' momentum.

Obama insists he will not send American ground troops back to Iraq after having withdrawn them in 2011, fulfilling a campaign promise. Still, even the limited airstrikes show the president's conviction that the U.S. military cannot remain dormant after fighting an eight-year war that temporarily neutralized Sunni extremists but failed to produce lasting peace.

U.S. military jets dropped food and water to imperiled refugees in northwestern Iraq and launched several airstrikes Friday on isolated targets, including two mortar positions and a vehicle convoy in northeastern Iraq, near the country's Kurdish capital of Irbil. Additional airdrops and targeted strikes were thought likely.

The next move may be up to the Islamic State group, the al-Qaida inspired extremists.

About three dozen U.S. military trainers and a U.S. consulate are in Irbil, where Kurdish forces are fighting off a militant advance.

Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said of the Islamic State group, "They are well organized and they're armed, and they are a significant threat to the stability of Iraq."




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State Department deputy spokeswoman Marie Harf said the Islamic State group must at least halt its advance on Irbil to prevent further strikes.

Iraq has been pleading for months, if not years, for additional U.S. military help to combat the extremists, but the U.S. pulled out of Iraq in part because it couldn't reach an agreement with the government on legal immunity for U.S. troops. Harf said the Obama administration acted now out of concern that "there was a crisis that had the potential to get much worse."

U.S. officials said the Islamic State extremists in recent days have shown military skill, including using artillery in sophisticated synchronization with other heavy weapons. Their force had overwhelmed not only Iraqi government troops but also the outgunned Kurdish militia.

The Obama administration insists the airstrikes and humanitarian airdrops are not the start of an open-ended campaign to defeat the militants.

The president's critics say his approach is too narrow.




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"A policy of containment will not work," Sens. John McCain and Lindsey Graham, both Republicans, said in a joint statement. They are among the chief critics of Obama's foreign policy in general, beginning with his decision to stick to the 2011 timetable set by President George W. Bush for a full withdrawal of U.S. troops.

The Islamic militants are "inherently expansionist and must be stopped," the senators said. "The longer we wait to act, the worse this threat will become."

Beyond airstrikes, the administration has been asked to provide arms directly to the Kurdish forces defending Irbil. Until now, the U.S. has been willing to do that only through the central government in Baghdad, which has long feuded with the semi-autonomous Kurdish government in Iraq's north.

Michael Barbero, a retired Army general who ran the U.S. training mission in Iraq from 2009 to 2011, said Baghdad never delivered about $200 million worth of American weapons that were designated for the Kurds. Pentagon officials maintain they can provide arms only to the Iraqi government, although Harf said Friday the Kurdish forces play a critical role in the crisis.

"We understand their need for additional arms and equipment and are working to provide those as well so they are reinforced," she said.




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The CIA could supply the Kurds under a covert operation. An agency spokesman declined comment when asked whether that was happening.

In announcing his decision to intervene militarily, Obama said he would not allow the U.S. "to be dragged into fighting another war in Iraq."

The extremists control an impressive stretch of territory from the outskirts of the Syrian city of Aleppo to most Sunni-dominated areas of northern and western Iraq, up to the edges of Baghdad.

They frequently launch bombings and other attacks in Baghdad, mostly targeting Shiites and government officials, often within sight and hearing of the U.S. Embassy, which is located in the capital's heavily fortified Green Zone.

The State Department on Friday warned U.S. citizens against all but essential travel to Iraq and said those in the country were at high risk for kidnapping and terrorist violence.

"I think the administration realizes that we're dealing with that rarest of things in President Obama's world, which is a military situation that has to be resolved militarily," said James F. Jeffrey, who was the U.S. ambassador in Baghdad when American troops withdrew from Iraq in 2011. The basic problem, Jeffrey said, is "these guys have to be stopped. And it's not a matter of whether the U.S. should stop them — it's a matter of when."

Across the Mideast, the U.S. has deployed considerable military power, including warplanes and an air operations center in the Persian Gulf state of Qatar. The aircraft carrier USS George H.W. Bush currently is located in the Persian Gulf and was the launching site for Friday's airstrikes.

The crisis appears to be falling to Washington to deal with — despite Obama's consultations with other nations and the U.N. — as the U.S. struggles with the parallel challenge of Islamic extremists' gains in neighboring Syria.

Vice President Joe Biden, in a call Friday to Iraqi President Fuad Masum, emphasized the threat the extremists present to all Iraqis and affirmed U.S. support, the White House said.
 

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Where is Saudi n Kuwait and the other "stable" Middle east countries? Where is Turkey and Iran?

Does any of this affect them? I still say, leave em to theyre own fate. At least let a generation of our kids have break from this nonsense.
 

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Isn't this the same president that called ICIS "junior varsity"?

Just as recent as June 11 the village idiot in office said "The world is less violent than it ever has been"
 

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Like I said in the other thread, it seems the air strikes are being conducted to keep IS from getting closer to Erbil and our diplomatic mission there. If that is the case, perhaps a lesson from Benghazi was actually learned.
 

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Like I said in the other thread, it seems the air strikes are being conducted to keep IS from getting closer to Erbil and our diplomatic mission there. If that is the case, perhaps a lesson from Benghazi was actually learned.

I really doubt they learned a lesson. Perhaps they did but I really doubt it. Give it time. We got some boots on the ground directing air strikes, let isis capture kill or find them and its Benghazi all over.
 

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Didn't say it was our fight. What I did was question why he would waste the time, resources, and manpower to bomb them if we are going to actually go after the leadership and make a statement. This is just more pussyfooting around a serious threat. These guys are the real deal, and they already have people here just waiting to carry out attacks. We have already lost.
 

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I really doubt they learned a lesson. Perhaps they did but I really doubt it. Give it time. We got some boots on the ground directing air strikes, let isis capture kill or find them and its Benghazi all over.

I would agree, if afterward our gubmint blames it on something else, lies about it, and then does nothing in response.
 
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