Open carry?

[Werewolf]

And no, it is not the ballot bill (HB1796). That has yet to be considered, and there are at least 10 pending floor amendments, most of which remove the ballot provision and one that repeals the SDA, Unlawful Carry, Fireams Act of 1971, and nearly all other Oklahoma firearm laws.

The OK constitution states fairly clearly that regulating how and where weapons can be carried is within the scope of restrictions that can be legislated by the legislature.

With that in mind; wouldn't repealing the Self Defense Act immediately make concealed carry illegal?

 

[vvvvvvv]

With that in mind; wouldn't repealing the Self Defense Act immediately make concealed carry illegal?

In the context of the rest of the statutes repealed as I read them, it would be legal to carry a firearm open or concealed just because you are within the boundaries of the State of Oklahoma. Citizens would have the option for an endorsement to be placed on their driver's license to serve as a concealed carry permit for reciprocity.

“SECTION 2. REPEALER 21<Title No.><212121> O.S. 2001, Sections 1271.1<Section No.><>, 1272, as last amended by Section 1, Chapter 128, O.S.L. 2007, 1272.1, 1272.2, Section 1, Chapter 381, O.S.L. 2008, 1273, 1276, 1277, as amended by Section 2, Chapter 128, O.S.L. 2007, 1278, 1279, 1280, 1280.1, as amended by Section 2, Chapter 465, O.S.L. 2003, 1281, 1282, 1287, as last amended by Section 2, Chapter 162, O.S.L. 2007, 1287.1, 1288, as amended by Section 1, Chapter 66, O.S.L. 2009, 1289.1, 1289.2, 1289.3, 1289.4, 1289.5, 1289.6, 1289.7, Section 1, Chapter 39, O.S.L. 2004 as amended by Section 1, Chapter 448, O.S.L. 2005, 1289.8, as last amended by Section 2, Chapter 169, O.S.L. 2005, 1289.9, 1289.10, 1289.11, 1289.13, as last amended by Section 1, Chapter 549, O.S.L. 2004, Section 4, Chapter 465, O.S.L. 2003, as amended by Section 2, Chapter 549, O.S.L. 2004, 1289.15, 1289.16, 1289.17, 1289.17A, 1289.18, 1289.19, 1289.20, 1289.21, 1289.22, 1289.23, as amended by Section 1, Chapter 538, O.S.L. 2004, 1289.24, as last amended by Section 1, Chapter 220, O.S.L. 2004, 1289.26, Section 1, Chapter 242, O.S.L. 2009, 1290.1, 1290.2, 1290.3, 1290.4, 1290.5, as last amended by Section 1, Chapter 225, O.S.L. 2009, 1290.6, 1290.7, 1290.8, as amended by Section 6, Chapter 465, O.S.L. 2003, 1290.9, as amended by Section 7, Chapter 465, O.S.L. 2003, 1290.10, 1290.11, as amended by Section 3, Chapter 62, O.S.L. 2006, 1290.12, as last amended by Section 1, Chapter 162, O.S.L. 2010, 1290.13, 1290.14, as last amended by Section 1, Chapter 455, O.S.L. 2005, 1290.15, 1290.16, 1290.17, 1290.18, 1290.19, 1290.20, 1290.21, 1290.22, as amended by Section 2, Chapter 39, O.S.L. 2004, 1290.23, 1290.24, 1290.25 and 1290.26, as amended by Section 9, Chapter 465, O.S.L. 2003 (21 O.S. Supp. 2010, Sections 1272, 1272.3, 1277, 1280.1, 1287, 1288, 1289.7a, 1289.8, 1289.13, 1289.13A, 1289.23, 1289.24, 1289.27, 1290.5, 1290.8, 1290.9, 1290.11, 1290.12, 1290.14, 1290.22 and 1290.26), are hereby repealed.”​

 

[Caseman]

By the way, the discharge petition for HB1647 passed. Call your Representatives and urge them to NOT support it without an amendment to remove the so-called "open carry language". The language in there only allows open carry if you can articulate a reasonable fear of bodily harm.

The bill has an amendment on it to remove section 6. We need to make sure is passes.

Floor Amendment #6 to HB1796 has the same bodily harm section 6 in it

 

[vvvvvvv]

The bill has an amendment on it to remove section 6. We need to make sure is passes.

Floor Amendment #6 to HB1796 has the same bodily harm section 6 in it

In the case of HB1796, it's acceptable as a form of emergency carry. For example, you receive a threat from someone and feel that you need to carry a firearm for personal protection but don't have time to wait 30-90 days for a handgun license, it allows you the opportunity to carry a firearm open without a license as long as you can show that a threat exists. In the context of HB1647, it is the only form of open carry allowed.

In other words, in HB1796 it's a supplemental emergency form of open carry while HB1647 keeps open carry a crime in Oklahoma.

 

[reddog1]

There will be blood in the streets!! It will be anarchy!!!

 

[CHenry]

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First Reading 105 02/07/2011 S

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Authored by Senator Russell 105 02/07/2011 S

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Second Reading referred to Tourism and Wildlife 276 02/08/2011 S

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Reported Do Pass as amended Tourism and Wildlife committee; CR filed 432 03/01/2011 S

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Title stricken 03/01/2011 S

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coauthored by Osborn (principal House author) 432 03/01/2011 S

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General Order, Amended by Floor Substitute 03/15/2011 S

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Measure passed: Ayes: 36 Nays: 8 03/15/2011 S

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Referred for engrossment 03/15/2011 S

 

[UnSafe]

Veggie Meat- You are now the unofficial translator and interpreter of all OK gun law stuff. I appreciate your interest and ability to communicate the complex details with all of us that just want the "Cliff's Notes" version.

Would appreciate if the mods would allow "Call your Rep today" notifications on the eve of important legislative activities, either on the General forum or possibly to be pushed to subscribers via email.

 

[vvvvvvv]

Referred for engrossment 03/15/2011 S

Engrossment is just the certification process that says that there were enough votes, that no one voted with a conflict of interest (such as Rep. Ritze's "Constitutional Privilege" to not vote on HB2128 because he is a doctor), and that the vote was not out of order. Since your post, it has been reported as Engrossed to House.

Would appreciate if the mods would allow "Call your Rep today" notifications on the eve of important legislative activities, either on the General forum or possibly to be pushed to subscribers via email.

That would be great, although without someone who has an inside link to leadership it would be more reactionary than anything. You could easily report on amendments and substitutes as they are transmitted, but the legislative process in Oklahoma is still more of a dictatorship in the sense that the presiding officer in each chamber has the say in what gets heard on the floor and what doesn't.

Still, any encouragement of involvement in the legislative process helps.

 

[CHenry]

Since your post, it has been reported as Engrossed to House.

I saw that...this is good no?

 

[Seth247]

I wish they'd remove that stupid crap about Bowie knives and dirk knives and Billy clubs and such.

I mean, I've got a license to carry a freaking loaded handgun of any caliber up to .45, but god forbid I have on me a knife that has :GASP: TWO sharpened edges! Or, EVEN WORSE looks sort of like a Bowie knife. Which is just a regular knife with a fancy design. I mean, who the hell wrote the OK SDA anyway? The Brady campaign?

I'd also like to be able to carry my ASP around without some idiot saying it's a bully club.