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Theres seems to be a general lack of respect in public these days. I blame parents many times. My teenage daughters and 9 year old son know they are to pay attention and remove their hat when the flag or national anthem is played. I see many adults not doing it and it really nags at me.
 

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Theres seems to be a general lack of respect in public these days. I blame parents many times. My teenage daughters and 9 year old son know they are to pay attention and remove their hat when the flag or national anthem is played. I see many adults not doing it and it really nags at me.

Is this the OrangeRcode from deadhorse fame?
 

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Nope. The Pledge was written just over 100+ years ago by a socialist, Francis Bellamy. "Under God" was not added until the 1950s. The pledge has no relation to the principles of this country in my eyes. There is also no reason to pledge an allegiance to a flag.

As to the national anthem, it is a good song written by Francis Scott Key and set to an older British tune. It was not made the anthem until the 1930s.

These things all sound very nice, but they have no real value.

EDIT: I should add that I cannot understand why we must pledge or commemorate by song the State. It seems like we are honoring the State. Why shouldwritt we? It serves us, we do not serve it.

this. british sympathizers and socialists didn't build this nation.
 

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While I'm not joining the argument on how exactly to show respect during the National Anthem, I am going to veer into a slightly different direction. Not only do young people today (I myself am only 33 so by "young", I mean teenagers) not respect the Anthem, but the Pledge of Allegiance often gets slighted too. I've worked as a high school teacher in both the best of the best and the worst of the worst that the OKC metro has to offer. In both places, IF the school requires the pledge, the kids gripe about doing it. I don't know why, nor do I know how to fix it. But it is tragic, nonetheless.
 

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36 USC 301
(b) Conduct During Playing.— During a rendition of the national anthem—
(1) when the flag is displayed—
(A) individuals in uniform should give the military salute at the first note of the anthem and maintain that position until the last note;
(B) members of the Armed Forces and veterans who are present but not in uniform may render the military salute in the manner provided for individuals in uniform; and
(C) all other persons present should face the flag and stand at attention with their right hand over the heart, and men not in uniform, if applicable, should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart; and
(2) when the flag is not displayed, all present should face toward the music and act in the same manner they would if the flag were displayed.

Serious question here, and maybe it's an opinion answer: What about out-of-uniform .mil or vets who are covered? Remove headgear or hand-salute?
 

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While I'm not joining the argument on how exactly to show respect during the National Anthem, I am going to veer into a slightly different direction. Not only do young people today (I myself am only 33 so by "young", I mean teenagers) not respect the Anthem, but the Pledge of Allegiance often gets slighted too. I've worked as a high school teacher in both the best of the best and the worst of the worst that the OKC metro has to offer. In both places, IF the school requires the pledge, the kids gripe about doing it. I don't know why, nor do I know how to fix it. But it is tragic, nonetheless.

perhaps the kids still have that sense that a flag is just a flag, and the government it represents owes allegiance to us. perhaps they sense the socialist undertones, and haven't quite been brainwashed to their full potential...

perhaps they're right, and it's stupid.

indivisible? the right to secede was asserted upon ratification by many of the founding states.
even lincoln acknowledged that right.
 

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