Stillwater schools eliminating resource officers

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, and others.

LightningCrash

Sharpshooter
Special Hen
Joined
Jul 31, 2008
Messages
11,886
Reaction score
105
Location
OKC
I will never understand why politicians always start cutting budgets with education. It is like smashing your hen's eggs because you afford to feed the horse.

When it's time for unwanted budget cuts, politicians cut the most visible services first. This way they can create the biggest pushback from the unwanted budget cuts and go right back to spending what they wanted. Also they can avoid scrutiny of the wasteful areas that they support. Win/win.

For instance, several years ago the State agencies all got a percentage-basis budget cut. Some chose to implement furloughs to make the cut. This had a bigger impact than reducing other operational expenses... the employees were furious about having their pay cut. They'd be madder if they'd all known about the way it affected their retirement contributions.
But some of the bigger agencies seemed to drag on and on with the furlough days. There were no furlough days in the following year.
 

SPDguns

Sharpshooter
Supporting Member
Special Hen Supporter
Joined
Feb 20, 2011
Messages
5,486
Reaction score
5,682
Location
Stillwater
I don't have a dog in this fight, but I am kinda curious as to why Stillwater public schools is all of the sudden in such dire straits financially? Is their financial situation strictly regarding personnel?

Because they overspent. Multi-million dollar bond issue a couple of years ago passed and they bought property with it. They bought the old Kicker building. Parents need to unite, grab their torches and pitchforks and rally. Fire the school board. Fire the superintendent. '71 is right, the first ever school shooting LAST YEAR in Stillwater and they dump the SRO's?

They should have gone and heard Lt. Col. Dave Grossman last month.....
 

SPDguns

Sharpshooter
Supporting Member
Special Hen Supporter
Joined
Feb 20, 2011
Messages
5,486
Reaction score
5,682
Location
Stillwater
Whatever happened to the Stillwater SRO officer that bedded down with a student??? How much did that cost the taxpayers of Payne County?? Yep, you need more SRO's to protect the children!

He was fired, lost his pension, did a year in County and is a convicted felon/registered sex offender. It didn't cost the county any more to prosecute any other who preys on children. What did you want, have it swept under the rug?
 

71buickfreak

Sharpshooter
Special Hen
Joined
Jul 22, 2009
Messages
4,790
Reaction score
30
Location
stillwater
Because they overspent. Multi-million dollar bond issue a couple of years ago passed and they bought property with it. They bought the old Kicker building. Parents need to unite, grab their torches and pitchforks and rally. Fire the school board. Fire the superintendent. '71 is right, the first ever school shooting LAST YEAR in Stillwater and they dump the SRO's?

They should have gone and heard Lt. Col. Dave Grossman last month.....

To be fair, the bond issue was for property purchases, that money is legally protected from being used for payroll. However, I am definitely on board with what you said. I wish we could just fire them, unfortunately, the only way for the super to be fired is by the board and the only to fire the board is to vote them out, which only happens one at a time with several years between each. There is an option to recall them, but that requires petitions and all that jazz, which is not easy.
 

Thomas

Sharpshooter
Special Hen
Joined
Jul 15, 2008
Messages
337
Reaction score
26
Location
Broken Arrow
I will never understand why politicians always start cutting budgets with education. It is like smashing your hen's eggs because you afford to feed the horse.

Because it is something everyone will make a fuss about. You think anyone would vote for more taxes if they just cut the real fat or administrator salaries?

Superintendent Salaries
http://www.ok.gov/sde/sites/ok.gov.sde/files/documents/files/FY2014 Supt Salaries 12_16_2013.pdf

Principal Salaries
http://www.ok.gov/sde/sites/ok.gov....les/FY2014 Principals Salaries 12_16_2013.pdf

Assistant Superindendent Salaries
http://www.ok.gov/sde/sites/ok.gov....iles/FY2014 Asst_Supt_Salaries 12_16_2013.pdf

Assistant Principal Salaries
http://www.ok.gov/sde/sites/ok.gov....Y2014 Asst_Principals Salaries 12_16_2013.pdf
 

JacobDaddy

Sharpshooter
Special Hen
Joined
Apr 16, 2009
Messages
413
Reaction score
0
Location
Muskogee
Because it is something everyone will make a fuss about. You think anyone would vote for more taxes if they just cut the real fat or administrator salaries?

Superintendent Salaries
http://www.ok.gov/sde/sites/ok.gov.sde/files/documents/files/FY2014 Supt Salaries 12_16_2013.pdf

Principal Salaries
http://www.ok.gov/sde/sites/ok.gov....les/FY2014 Principals Salaries 12_16_2013.pdf

Assistant Superindendent Salaries
http://www.ok.gov/sde/sites/ok.gov....iles/FY2014 Asst_Supt_Salaries 12_16_2013.pdf

Assistant Principal Salaries
http://www.ok.gov/sde/sites/ok.gov....Y2014 Asst_Principals Salaries 12_16_2013.pdf

The more interesting figures are the dollar amounts per student (superintendent salary divided by number of students). I am looking for that information. I know that I have seen it somewhere.
 

DirtyDawg

Sharpshooter
Special Hen
Joined
Sep 30, 2009
Messages
640
Reaction score
0
Location
NE Oklahoma
Throwing/wasting more money at education, SRO's, buildings, and athletic stadiums will not fix the problem. Until parents get involved with their school board, the administration, their teachers, and their children, there is no amount of money that can fix the problem. As a parent, if you aren't willing to get involved, run for school board, organize, call out wasteful spending at the city, school, county, and state level, then don't expect me to welcome higher taxes to solve your problem. As bad as it may seem, trust me, it's going to get worse. The utopian dream is going to morally and fiscally bankrupt this country. History proves it.
 

JacobDaddy

Sharpshooter
Special Hen
Joined
Apr 16, 2009
Messages
413
Reaction score
0
Location
Muskogee
Get involved? That is ridiculous. I send my children to the neighborhood free daycare that also feeds them two meals a day for me. The then use some of the time to teach my kids to reed, right and cal cull a bate. I don't make my kid do none of them papers the teacher sends home with him.

/sarcasm

To too many parents the above statement seems true. Learning needs to occur outside of the walls of the schoolhouse too. Parents are refusing to make their kids do homework, read with their child or even discuss any behavior. Unfortunately this cartoon is all too true.

http://gjismyp.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/teacher-grades.jpg

My kids do not go to the school district we live in, but the district we live in recently held a bond vote for $980,000 and passed it with only 5 votes. The election was not publicized anywhere. There are 927 registered voters in the district.

http://newsok.com/only-five-people-vote-in-980000-school-bond-election-in-crutcho/article/3904368
 

vvvvvvv

Sharpshooter
Special Hen
Joined
Nov 18, 2008
Messages
12,284
Reaction score
65
Location
Nowhere
The election was not publicized anywhere.

This is a big problem.

Not only are school-related votes intentionally scheduled outside of regular polling dates, but no useful notice is given to the public.

Ask yourself about the last time you actually picked up a newspaper and looked at the Public Notice section. In areas served by smaller papers, you now have to have a subscription to get one because the print-and-drop method has become too expensive.

Some districts don't even use the paper anymore. They post an obscure notice in an obscure area of their website that may not even have a link.

Many school boards, superintendents, and even educators see public participation in the district's business as the enemy.

Sent at a speed of 3*10^8 meters per second via Tapatalk.
 

Latest posts

Top Bottom